Author Topic: Done with rattle cans (Read 1597 times)

Mike Mecredy · « **on:** February 06, 2016, 01:39:00 PM »

I finally got around to buying a gravity feed air gun to do my finishing. Now I'm kicking myself I didn't get one sooner. It probably would have saved me a bunch of money. This thing is great. Easy to figure out too.

jess stuart · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2016, 01:56:00 PM »

What kind did you go with Mike. We need details man.

Mike Mecredy · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2016, 02:06:00 PM »

I got a Central Pneumatic 47016 HVLP, I got that one because I could use water based spar urethane, or any other thing I choose, incase I ever decide to give t-bird or fuller plast a try. The pattern can be adjusted a lot as well. It's a $25 or so set up but that's what 3 rattle cans of what I've been using costs, and the finish I'm using Varythane, spar urethane, works good with it and that sets up solid on any type of wood.

Mad Max · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2016, 06:14:00 PM »

"Required air supply: 1-3 HP compressor . Required air pressure: 50-70 PSI . Air consumption: 6 CFM . Output: 200-300 CCS per minute. Nozzle size: 1.5Mm . Cup capacity: 20 oz . Air inlet: 1/4"-18 NPS".

50-70 PSI

Pictures of the finish on the bow, Please

PEARL DRUMS · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2016, 08:43:00 PM »

I've been thinking a lot about doing the same thing Mike. I have the compressor already. I pay $7-9 a can now. That's only 2-3 bows, not many!

jess stuart · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2016, 09:49:00 PM »

I have been using Krystal for several years now and it works well. What brand of varethane and spar urethane are you using and where are you getting it? I am always looking for something better or easier.

Mike Mecredy · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2016, 02:20:00 AM »

Jess, the brand is Varethane and the product is spar urethane. It comes in gloss, semi gloss, and satin, in interior and outdoor, it's waterbased and doesn't need to be thinned before spraying. It sets up on any wood, cocobolo, rosewood, you name it. I use the outdoor satin finish.

http://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/varathane/crystal-clear-spar-urethane/

PEARL DRUMS · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2016, 08:14:00 AM »

I use Minwax Helmsman in clear satin. It's a green and back can. It will be dry in 2 hours if its not too cool. I like 4-5 coats. Quite an attractive and durable finish out of a rattle can.

Roy from Pa · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2016, 09:10:00 AM »

I bought this one, works great..

http://www.amazon.com/Graco-Sharpe-289200A-Mini-HVLP-FX1000-Paint/dp/B0019CJDLK

Jomohr84 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2016, 09:11:00 AM »

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Originally posted by PEARL DRUMS:
I use Minwax Helmsman in clear satin. It's a green and back can. It will be dry in 2 hours if its not too cool. I like 4-5 coats. Quite an attractive and durable finish out of a rattle can.

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I have been using minwax helmsman spar urethane satin for a few years. I put a few coats of massey finish on first, then once it's cured, a few of the spar urethane. It has been real durable for me, and looks great imo.

jess stuart · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2016, 03:50:00 PM »

Thanks Mike, I will give a try.

Mike Mecredy · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2016, 10:29:00 PM »

Does that minwax cure on the rosewoods?

Jomohr84 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2016, 02:25:00 AM »

I've had no problems with it curing over bubinga, not sure how it would do with actual rosewoods

Furtaker · « **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2016, 06:17:00 AM »

Nope,helmsman won't cure on the oily stuff without sealing it first.

Roy from Pa · « **Reply #14 on:** February 08, 2016, 06:32:00 AM »

Seal oily wood with shellac first.

PEARL DRUMS · « **Reply #15 on:** February 08, 2016, 09:24:00 AM »

Shellac is fine, but I seal a lot of ipe and have had no problems spraying right over it. Just did this weekend as a matter of fact.

PEARL DRUMS · « **Reply #16 on:** February 08, 2016, 09:28:00 AM »

As a follow up. I have tried several other aerosols, none dry on oily wood like Helmsman does without a base coat of shellac or super glue.

Robertfishes · « **Reply #17 on:** February 08, 2016, 02:26:00 PM »

I used to use Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane, with out sealing it doesn't dry over Cocobolo or Santos Rosewood. My first glass backed bow had cocobolo veneers and the Minwax was very tacky on the limb edges 8 days after spraying the bow..I sanded it down sealed edges with super glue and refinished it with no problems. I did a touch up on a bow with a Santos Rosewood overlay..same problem so I sanded, superglued, refinished with spar, no problems.. Last year I bought 2 mini HVLP guns, I now use the Finex FX1000 mini HVLP with a 1.4mm tip. I am currently spraying Krystal Dull or Gloss, no need to seal oily woods with Krystal.

Mike Mecredy · « **Reply #18 on:** February 08, 2016, 02:39:00 PM »

I used to use superglue to seal cocobolo and the like, back in my Tru-oil days. But for the last few years I've chose to just use something that cures without sealing it first.

Dale in Pa · « **Reply #19 on:** February 08, 2016, 02:45:00 PM »

Mike, Try Fullerplast, don't think you'll regret it. Dries on anything, builds up real well and you can spray repeated coats within minutes of applying.

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