Younger guys? Ha. I'm older than dirt. My shoulders have taken me to dark, sadistic places. Some mornings, I couldn't hit the alarm button if my life depended on it, or right myself in bed because my shoulders hurt so bad my upper body was incapacitated, and at the sound of the alarm I literally slid like a snake onto the floor onto my knees or butt so I could stand with just my legs/lower body... then reach DOWN to the alarm clock... and saw it like an accomplishment :^) Couldn't put on a shirt or brush my teeth without involuntarily yelling out in pain, and I'm generally a hurt-tolerant sumbeach... or sleep beyond an hour or so through the night without them bringing me fully awake in a real bad way. That went on every night for a long, lonnnnggggg time, and that was just the tip of my iceberg. I won't bore ya with the rest of it. It was what it was, dealt with it, now it's gone, but it was MY hurdle. I had to start over again with kids bows and now, 5 years later, I'm closing in on 70 lbs again. Git er done Roy. Take your time, be smart about it. But work at it.