Grizzly Knock Off + Stupid Idea---> Trial Tests In!!

[tippit]

I had some time to fool around with my forge and decided to make up a couple Grizzly type forged heads with LW bevel.  They haven't been quenched or tempered yet but they are substantial heads.

Now the stupid idea...but you don't know unless you try right.  I slotted a carbon arrow and epoxied/wrapped on the trade point.  I'll shoot it into a 1x12" board to see if the carbon shaft can keep from splitting.  

I should be happy with Grizzly heads just the way they are     Doc

   

   

   

     

[Tim Fishell]

Looks sweet Doc!!  Looking forward to your reports on how it worked!!  

[Dr. Ed Ashby]

Trying interesting things is never a stupid idea. Any particular reason for not adding a well-bonded wood IF inside the carbon shaft before slotting it ... and then tapering the 'ferrule profile' to fade smoothly into the blade's face?

Ed
TGMM Family of the Bow

[4runr]

That's why he's a Doc, Doc. He has good ideas.

Oh yeah, you're a Doc too, Doc, and you have good ideas too.

Does this sound like a well known Presidential candidate?

[snakewood3]

Mix finely chopped carbon fibers with epoxy to fill the end then slot and taper per the DR..

[Kingstaken]

I likes da lQQk of that arrow.
Just a thought, could ya slot it with the insert installed to give alil reinforcement? Would it be worth it?

[Carbon Caster]

Doc,

Do another one with an insert epoxied in first, and then slot it to epoxy and haft the head inside.  MUCH STRONGER.  I bet it splits pretty dramatically that way.  I want video!!!!

LOL!!!

[BobW]

that will open like a banana

[d. ward]

great idea Jeff,I will be looking foward to seeing one in person soon.bowdoc

[Steveoz]

wear your safety glasses.

[vermonster13]

Or at least foot the shaft with an aluminum piece.

[Steve O]

Doc,

I second using an insert, even better an aluminum "plug", and footing it after you mount the broadhead (before fletching).

[Missouri Sherpa]

Yup, I vote for putting the insert in the carbon shaft first,  making a narrow channel with a dremel cutoff tool, insert your forged head and then slather on the epoxy and wrap it up with artificial sinew.

[Shawn Leonard]

Doc, why don't ya foot it with aluminum, ya could slot the footing as well and use 24 hour epoxy on it. I believe it would hold up than. Shawn

[tippit]

I thought about all those ideas as this system works really well.  Just trying to avoid the narrow tang that goes into the insert even though this system has not failed for me..

 

What I was going to due was put a small plug into the shaft to keep the epoxy from running down the entire shaft.  Then the end should become an entire epoxy mass with tang of arrow head within...kinda like the HIT system on Axis arrows.  Finally the wrap around the shaft should give it a lot of strength.  

It is supposed to rain all day tomorrow and my Grizzly look-a-likes are now cooking in the oven to be tempered.  Looks like Sunday is launch day  :D    Heck what fun would it be if you just screwed a perfect Grizzly into your perfect carbon shaft.  I'm not striving for perfection as it's already there!  I'm just trying to keep myself entertained while my wife is down South for the winter...Doc

[jimneye]

Cut a slot into a field point glue the head into it and just screw it on.

[Lewis Brookshire III]

Tippit here is something I did to shoot Knapped heads with a carbon arrow. Its pretty easy to do. I just slotted a long alluminum adaptor with my bandsaw epoxied them in and then sinewed the heads just for looks.

 

[Shawn Leonard]

I see Vermonster suggested that and I am sure that is the way to go you could try with or without the insert. Shawn

[tippit]

I've done that too.  But this is was so Great about Trad Gang.  You post something and even if it's crazy, you get a Ton of Ideas to prefect it.  Thanks...Doc

 

[Lewis Brookshire III]

Yeah we are all a little off kilter! HAHAHA