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Offline Elison

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Delamination in recurve
« on: October 15, 2016, 09:28:00 PM »
Hi guys!

I'm trying to make a recurve bow using a bingham plan, but when I started to bend the wood and the glass started to delaminate in 2 points:

 

 

 

 

Any idea in how I can fix it?     :confused:  

Thanks
Elison J. G. Lusvardi

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Re: Delamination in recurve
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2016, 11:18:00 PM »
Not sure but maybe bad glue, prep surfaces rougher, large gaps perhaps....    :confused:
Not sure about fixng it,  sure others will chime in.

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Re: Delamination in recurve
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2016, 02:59:00 AM »
You can't fix it now i'm afraid....time to start again.

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Re: Delamination in recurve
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2016, 06:50:00 AM »
Option 1: If the fades are not damaged you can strip the riser and rebuild the bow. Be sure to wipe down the riser, lams and glass with acetone and wear gloves to do the glue-up.

Option 2: The core does not appear to be damaged, You might try to re-glue the de-lam. Nothing lost if it doesn't hold. If you can work some epoxy all the way in at the de-lam, Super glue will not hold. I would try to stress the limb to open the crack and use a hacksaw blade (with the teeth ground off) to force the epoxy into the crack then clamp it. If you warm the epoxy it will flow better.

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Re: Delamination in recurve
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2016, 03:42:00 PM »
You can thin smooth on or other epoxy with 95% pure isopropyl but, no offense intended the layup looks sketchy to me.  Possibly too much or not enough pressure in that area on the layup.
The best made plan won't get it made the way you planned.

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Re: Delamination in recurve
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2016, 03:47:00 PM »
I'm not seeing much damage to wood, so may be an adhesion prob. What kind of glue and what type of form (air or bands)?
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Offline mikkekeswick

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Re: Delamination in recurve
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2016, 03:14:00 AM »
Trouble is those surfaces have already had glue on them. All the pores are now filled, the bond would be poor at best if you just tried to get some glue in there and clamp it up again.
Something caused the glue to fail, the reasons are too many and varied for anyone to know from looking at those pictures.
Who wants a bow that is a ticking time bomb....!

Offline Krasus

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Re: Delamination in recurve
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2016, 09:28:00 PM »
Fade looks like it has a square end rather then tapering to nothing

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Re: Delamination in recurve
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2016, 05:33:00 AM »
Yes it is square, good observation.

Offline Elison

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Re: Delamination in recurve
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2016, 09:16:00 AM »
The wood don't broke when delaminate.
So, I tried to glues it again, thinning the epoxy with a heat gun to fill all the gaps.  
It seems to be ok in this part.  BUT, the limb delaminate in the tips too.  D=

Causes for bad epoxy.  

Let's see if this bow will turn a bow or a firewood.
Elison J. G. Lusvardi

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