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WESTBROOK
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Water based Poly
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March 08, 2008, 07:09:00 PM »
What can water based poly be thinned with? I would like to dip the shafts with multiple thin coats.
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freeman
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 08, 2008, 07:22:00 PM »
I've never thinned it. But water based, water clean-up, I'd assume water thinned? I don't know why you would want to do this though? I've dipped 2-coats (000 steel wool betwween coats) and ended up with a durable, smooth as glass finish. What would be the advantage of more thinned out coats?
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laddy
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 08, 2008, 07:24:00 PM »
When I used it I wiped every coat with a rag and lightly sanded the final coat. I could not figure what to use either, but I wasn't willing to gamble with my shafts to experiment.
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 08, 2008, 07:39:00 PM »
I would try some DI H2O. Hap
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 08, 2008, 07:53:00 PM »
I guess because I've heard of others thinning the oil based stuff to get better penetration into the wood on the first coat. Figured I'd try it with water based.
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702plmo
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 08, 2008, 09:31:00 PM »
I would not thin it. It looks think but drys to a thin layer.
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 08, 2008, 09:39:00 PM »
Eric, I thinned some a bit once with distilled water, but find it not to be necessary. It is pretty thin and tough when it dries and bonds to the shaft very well. I still prefer the oil base, tho. Something about dipping my bare shafts in water that just doesn't seem right to me.
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 08, 2008, 10:08:00 PM »
Thanks for the input guys, guess I'll just use it as-is.
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Eric
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steve schrank
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 09, 2008, 12:12:00 AM »
on the waterbase coating what do you use for fletch cement :confused:
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 09, 2008, 12:39:00 AM »
I refinished leather for years with water base dyes and always used water in very small ratios for thinning. water and laquer bases do not mix.
At one time I used a company based out of Stockton, Ca for most of my supplies. They even sold a water based duller to take the sheen out of the final coat and it worked wonders on leather. I am sure it would work on wood because they are both pourous and will absorb the stain.
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 09, 2008, 01:24:00 AM »
ducco
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Molson
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 09, 2008, 03:06:00 AM »
The best way to thin it is to get it warm. Set the can or dip tube where it will heat up a bit more than room temperature and it will run off quick and dry for another coat in about 2 hours. Use Duco Cement to fletch.
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 09, 2008, 08:55:00 AM »
Molson, THATS a good Idea!
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horatio1226
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 09, 2008, 09:03:00 AM »
As a professional painter. I would rather have 4 thin coats steel wooled in between than 2 thicker coats steel wooled in between. Makes for a nicer, more durable finish Just my opinion. I thin my poly with a little water.
Brian
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 09, 2008, 09:14:00 AM »
Horatio , Me Too!
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Dave Worden
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 11, 2008, 03:48:00 PM »
Doesn't the can tell you what to thin it with?
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 11, 2008, 04:52:00 PM »
I use plain water to thin and then plunge the shaft a few times to stir it up.
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 11, 2008, 06:05:00 PM »
water to thin, duco to fletch
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Re: Water based Poly
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March 11, 2008, 06:41:00 PM »
don't thin it fine scotch bright pad or fine steel wool between coats i've been using zar ultra max waterbase i use a dip tube with a foam pad like a sponge in the cap small hole in the center leaves a smooth coat 5-6 coats the longer you let waterbase dry after thre 5-6 coats the harder it will be most people can't wait to shoot there new arrows leave them a few weeks the finish will be harder & more durable !
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