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what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« on: June 02, 2017, 12:25:00 AM »
Hi all!  Building my first longbow.  Wood laminated with slight d/r aiming for the mid thirties pound draw range and maybe 60-62" nock to nock.

So far I have bamboo backing from echo archery that is about 1/8"

Handle will be osage as well.

I have a very thin piece of osage, I was hoping to go just BBO, but will have to add something else I think and figure why not something besides Osage.

Basically I am looking for a recommendation on a piece of lumber that would go well with these two that is about 1/2" x 1.5" x 70" or so.

What about Ipe? and where to find it.  Any cheap options out there?

I believe I will be using Unibond 800 for the glue up.

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2017, 02:40:00 AM »
It is best to pick a lower density wood for the core. Corers are really only spacers between the back and belly surfaces that are doing the work.
Maple, b.walnut,sycamore or a similar mid density wood woulkd be my choice. B.walnut looks well against osage.
I would put about an 0.002 taper on it. Or if going full pyramid with the limb profile 0.001.

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2017, 06:17:00 AM »
How thick is the piece of Osage you have?

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2017, 08:27:00 AM »
That's what I was wondering, how thick is the osage, and is it already brought to accurate dimensions throughout? Is it parallel or tapered? Is it a GOOD piece, with no knots or severe ring runout?

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2017, 09:25:00 AM »
You might already have what you need for a 30# bow just with the boo and thin osage belly.
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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2017, 09:59:00 AM »
The osage I have is coming from OMC bowyer supply.

1.5" wide
.050 thick (inches??)
.002 taper

its 2 36" pieces.  What exactly does .05 thick mean?

I ordered rather impulsively.   :D

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2017, 10:00:00 AM »
I guess I was hoping for a piece about 3/8" to 1/2" thick to start from.

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2017, 11:25:00 AM »
You could probably build a 60# bow with the 1/2" osage and boo backing.
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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2017, 11:35:00 AM »
Well I currently shoot a 40# @26 and I'm very inconsistent when it comes to a 30-60 arrow 3D shoots so I want something lighter to work on my form.  

Trying to figure out what .050 thick means.  I'd understand if it said 0.05"

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2017, 11:41:00 AM »
0.050" is a thin lamination.
It is 5/100 of an inch thick, or less than 1/16" thick.
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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2017, 11:55:00 AM »
I always use all 3 numbers like .050, because I deal in thousandths of an inch to keep it simple.

So fifty thousandths is same as five hundredths.

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2017, 01:11:00 PM »
That's why I added the 1/16".......so Roy could follow along.   :biglaugh:
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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2017, 02:49:00 PM »
I am a little confused by the numbers you show.  A tapered lam usually is represented by the thick end thickness, so in your case 0.050".  Then it tapers out at a certain taper rate, in your case 0.002" per inch of length.  On a 36" lam with 0.002" taper, it will be 0.072" thinner on the thin side than the thick side.  That's not possible if it only started at 0.050".  
Or am I missing something?
It would clear things up if you could measure both the thick end and the thin end of one of your lams.
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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2017, 03:01:00 PM »
I am also confused by the numbers!

Just got off the phone with OMC bowyer supply and he set me up with a more proper thickness and taper to back with bamboo.   Should have it sometime next week.

I think I will use a hacksaw blade to gently score the wood before glueing up to the bamboo with Unibond 800, unless y'all suggest something else

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2017, 03:58:00 PM »
Hacksaw blade scoring and Unibond should work.

Your bamboo should be tapered also. 1/8" thick at the handle and 1/16" at the tips.

What are the dimensions of the osage now going to be?

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2017, 04:02:00 PM »
A 3/8th or .375 thick Osage belly lam will get you into the mid 30#'s with no problem at 60-62" nock to nock. Might even come out more on the 40# + side. But it's always nice to have a little extra wood.

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2017, 05:40:00 PM »
When you get to low poundage bows you can't always
use 3 or 4 pieces in a stack.
I have made some with 2 fiberglass and 1 taper lam.
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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2017, 06:40:00 PM »
Yep, listen to Roy.   :notworthy:

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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2017, 08:46:00 PM »
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Re: what wood to accompany bamboo and osage?
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2017, 08:15:00 PM »
Osage is here

Both pieces just over a 1/4" tapering to 1/4"

36" Long


I also got a nice riser block, and am thinking about cutting a power lam from it to go between the bamboo and the 1/4" osage in order to take stress off my handle.

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