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I beam riser ?
« on: January 12, 2018, 09:15:00 AM »
Hi Fellas Im putting my riser material together for a Kennym  bow , Kennym mentioned that I beaming with just wood increases the strength of the riser ,Im assuming that means putting one peace vertical grained & one peace horazontal  grain ? Or a combanation of alternating grains ?  I just want to make sure Im thinking right ?
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2018, 09:56:00 AM »
Here is a recurve handle blank with Sonokeling Rosewood with an Ibeam of Bubinga and contrasting Birch veneers.
 

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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 09:59:00 AM »
Finished RD bow with Ibeam. I offset the Ibeam to get its full strength in the cut out sight window
   

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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 10:10:00 AM »
Verry nice thanks for posting that  I appreciate it  beautifull !
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 10:14:00 AM »
No 90 degree grains...  Keep them all length wise...

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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 11:55:00 AM »
Really nice.
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2018, 12:15:00 PM »
Bue that is awesome.

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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 12:39:00 PM »
Nice! love the accents in there!!
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 01:21:00 PM »
Ok at the risk of sounding dense ,but in then pic above it looks like the outer 2 peaces of wood are flat grained  and the center peace is edge grained ?  That would put them 90 deg,s grain wise to each other ,  or em I seeing it wrong ?
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 02:13:00 PM »
You are seeing correct. When glued up like that with strong woods like Rosewood and Bubinga I do not think it matters.
The finished bow have an Ibeam of Lignostone and all pieces are flat grain.

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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2018, 02:38:00 PM »
Ok thanks got it !  Im going to use Mozanbique & rock maple , I recently used Mozanbique on a all wood bow riser that wood is about as dense of wood as I have ever worked Thanks !
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2018, 02:53:00 PM »
As simple as this topic may seem.....it can get confusing quickly to some(myself included   ;)   ).

Please   :pray:   someone correct me if I'm wrong.

There are four possible grain orientations from best to worst:
-Vertical Flat
-Vertical Edge
-Horizontal Flat
-Horizontal Edge
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2018, 03:35:00 PM »
I would think all edge grain in main part and ibeam will be stronger. no more than quarter sawn is best.
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2018, 03:51:00 PM »
Stic, are you speaking when looking at side of bow or back to belly.

I should clarify, I was referencing side view.
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2018, 05:01:00 PM »
Heck it's only a gwass bow....  :)

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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2018, 05:34:00 PM »
don't forget when gluing individual strips of wood together they become homogenous so grain orientation becomes less critical. making an I beam riser is the same concept as actionwood. individual pieces glued together as one is stronger than a single block

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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2018, 05:51:00 PM »
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Originally posted by TradBowyer:
don't forget when gluing individual strips of wood together they become homogenous so grain orientation becomes less critical. making an I beam riser is the same concept as actionwood. individual pieces glued together as one is stronger than a single block
Yes, you could cut the block in 3 pcs and reverse the center one and increase strength a lot!
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2018, 06:32:00 PM »
Sounds good Kenny I will do it with both peaces , glad I started the thread I have a much better understanding of the concept now ,thanks fellas, I was thinking it had to do with grain orientation prior to the thread !
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2018, 06:41:00 PM »
If you can, make the grain like Bue's outer pcs. Won't hurt if you have a choice, plus shows grain better on sides of riser.
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Re: I beam riser ?
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2018, 06:44:00 PM »
It’s only rock’n roll and I like it like it, yes I do.   ;)

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