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Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« on: February 21, 2010, 04:08:00 PM »
I killed this cow buffalo last Saturday in Colorado. It was supposed to be on a 30,000 acre ranch and not a pen hunt. Well when I got there it was a 60,000 acre ranch with a 100 acre pen with the cull cows and bulls in it. Disappointed with the outfitter but still wanted to honor the animal and what she means to me.
 
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2010, 04:19:00 PM »
Awesome! Great pic!
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2010, 05:19:00 PM »
SWP, thats a fine animal. Congradulations. Nothing better than buffalo burger and steaks. of course i have to buy mine for now.   :thumbsup:    :notworthy:
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 05:30:00 PM »
yea that would have pissed me off, but I suppose in the end it is still the same meat, so how big of a herd was in that 100 acres?
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2010, 06:04:00 PM »
Nice cow. It's a shame about that bait and switch. What was the name of the ranch? I was looking at doing a bison hunt with my tax returns, and I don't want that kind of operation on my short list.
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2010, 06:34:00 PM »
Guys I am not going to make this a public flaming of the booking agent or guide as I am trying to get them to make it right. I will take part of the blame for not getting things in writing but I specifically asked when I talked to the booking agent if this was I high fenced hunt and he said no. There were 5 or 6 bulls and three other cows besides this one in the pen. Honestly I could have got this type of experience a lot closer to home but was looking for something a little closer to a hunt so I booked this one. In the end I still got the meat, hide, head and bow/arrow performance info on this cow.
I don't want any of you to get the same deal as me so if you want more info email or PM me.
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 08:29:00 PM »
Congrats on the cow!

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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 09:58:00 PM »
Congrats. She'll eat great. What was the bow/arrow specs and how did it perform?

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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2010, 08:17:00 AM »
BW PSR 59@28, pulling it about 56#. 540grm ramin arrow with a 150 Grizzly El Grande on top. First shot (broadside) hit a rib going in and only got about 14" of penetration. Second shot (quartering away) buried to the fletching, entered through the liver and got lungs. Put her down in about 20 seconds.
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2010, 08:50:00 AM »
Thanks for the info.Congrats again.

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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2010, 11:19:00 AM »
SWP--just for the record I am 100% against any kind of fenced hunt

but did you really expect it would be anything but a kill shot?

I am very familiar with the place that you killed your buff, and they have a bad rap for many years now, sorry you were dissapointed, I can only imagine the smoke they blew up your skirt, but it was a fenced hunt.

I hope you enjoy the meat and hide.

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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2010, 12:10:00 PM »
HornHunter,

I was expecting to get out and stretch my legs and have to go find them anyway. I didn't expect the killing part to be any huge challenge. I have never shot "raised" big game. But I have hunted pen raised birds and I understand the difference between hunting pen raised birds and wild birds, the only thing they have in common is they fly (sometimes). I figured this would be the same thing but I still wanted to go find them. At 45  and having never put in for a wild bison hunt I figured my chances of ever drawing for one were very slim so I went with something I thought would be as close as I could get to wild. Turns out it wasn't even on the same planet.   :)
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2010, 12:10:00 PM »
Thanks for sharing your experience with us.  It's too bad that it wasn't what you were hoping for.
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2010, 03:52:00 PM »
Good eats, fire up the grill!!!!    :saywhat:
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2010, 08:07:00 AM »
SWP
I understand ,that place is well known for there BS,
looks like your set up worked well,buffs are big critters,

Scott
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2010, 10:55:00 AM »
Nice Pic the horns look great what did it cost you there?  How much was the Taxidermy?
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2010, 11:29:00 AM »
Sorry that things didn't go exactly the way you planned. Its a bummer for sure! Regardless, thank you for sharing your pics and story with us. Nice shooting!

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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2010, 11:54:00 AM »
Joe,
I took the hide to the guy who did my bobcat and bear. The head I had planned to do european and had got a quote from another person for $175. After everything went down with the outfitter I wasn't feeling like spending another $175 so I am just doing it myself. For anyone who is interested I just got my meat back and there was 411 pounds of it. I think I can make it through the rest of the winter on that.  :)
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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2010, 12:41:00 PM »
A couple of years ago we got a call from a farmer who wanted a few buffalo culled, yes we could use our bows. no surprises as to what to expect, where they would be etc. Figured, what the heck, its february and we will be able to get some cool pictures, we were getting the meat either way. When we showed up, there was a hitch thrown at us, about a dozen had escaped and he couldn't chase them back home, they had entered a large muskeg on public land. Talked to Fish and Wildlife and were told that there was no issue as long as he got them back home on or off their feet. It turned an afternoon into a week long adventure and a ton of fun, still fence grown but a totally different deal and I have been waiting for some more to escape. Used a Jack Kempf long bow, 2020's and the Wensel Woodsman head. 1 cow fell over within feet and my bull went 1/2 mile with 2 arrows through the boiler room. The recovery wasn't as easy as we had planned, they are pretty big and the meat was awesome, you should enjoy it alot.

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Re: Not quite as advertised Tatonka
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2010, 01:01:00 PM »
Cool pics, thanks for sharing. Good eatin too...

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