This was my second deer taken this year in wis, and was my 1st Trad buck in my 1st year hunting with Trad equipment. Shot my 1st trad doe earlier in the season, but didn't get any pics. This buck was shot at 8 yards with my Big River Long Bow with a tappered Douglas fir shaft tipped with a 145 Snuffer. To my surprise this is the way i found him, with the arrow still in him! The arrow i made myself.