Well the way work hours are going this year might make a honest man out of me might be the last this year 🙄 But Im not so convienced that this 68 will be slower with heavy arrows ,I plan on shooting DF 600-650 grain arrows ,Im building it as a pig hunter/3d bow ,but for arrows 450-500 grain Im going to guess Kennys 60 in forward handle bow is going to be the winner in terms of speed it has a lot of forward loading (early string tension ) its a out right Rocket launcher , I will test all 3 with different weight arrows the test for the 64 & 60 will be in a couple of weeks I will post the Numbers.