Yea it had 1100 grains of elk sinew on that one Flem ,I got another osage one on the wall ruffed down and aging 3 years on the wall that keeps taking natural reflex I'm going to sinew it maybe in winter so many bows need built and not enough spare time ! I got a couple hickory & maple sinew bows that are nice shooters just don't shoot them much any more but fun to make !