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New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« on: May 01, 2018, 06:37:51 PM »
Ok guys, gonna try again. Hickory backing, red elm core, hickory belly. My backing came out to 3/32nds so I mad the belly a lil thicker than a 1/4 (11/32nds). Ive decided I will make one of these darn things or die trying, its personal now. Don't know about the belly being that thick but what the hell lets see what happens.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2018, 06:51:23 PM »
Looks nice..

Wish you luck Johnny.

You should alternate the clamps every other one reversed.

But heck it's not my bow..

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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2018, 06:56:30 PM »
Pressure strip is to wide, that's the only way I can get the clamp centered. Hasn't caused a problem before, ya just have to make sure it doesn't twist anywhere.
 I don't believe in luck by the way, you can wish me free beer, that would be cool.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2018, 07:47:57 PM »
I'll send ya a PBR...

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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2018, 07:57:35 PM »
Cool, I like Pabst.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2018, 07:59:50 AM »
Well it came out of the form nice and even. In the center it is .620 at the end of the fade its .595 and .490 at the tips. With 27.5 from end of fade to tips that's a taper of .000381818. I have no idea what the hell that means but we will find out.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2018, 09:00:54 AM »
Didn't happen wifout pichers... :thumbsup:

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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2018, 09:16:11 AM »
Happy now.


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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2018, 09:17:40 AM »
Looking at the belly it will most likely blow up. I cant win for loosing fellows.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2018, 09:27:14 AM »
This wasn't there before glue up? Maybe I can put some unibond in there? It stops an inch or so before the limb starts to taper, which is 6 inches from the fade.

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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2018, 09:38:44 AM »
Cracks the length of the bow aren't necessarily the end of the bow.  I had those show up on a couple different bows.  I would say they are checks that were deep in the wood and came out when it was stressed in the form.  It doesn't look too bad to me.  Maybe someone with more experience with them can chime in, but the couple ones I've encountered didn't affect the bow.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2018, 09:45:11 AM »
Thanks Ben, I feel better now. Gonna try it anyway. Should I fill it with some unibond when I glue the riser on, or use super glue?
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2018, 09:45:58 AM »
I saw Roy looking, but he left without saying a thing.  :laughing:
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2018, 09:51:02 AM »
Now that I think about it, both times I had those were when I used an osage belly.  I bet Roy has seen those with as much as he uses osage on his tri lams. 
Unibond would be more for aesthetics, super glue would be your best bet a stopping the crack from propagating. 
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2018, 10:16:52 AM »
I'd fill it and go for it.

I'd use super glue also.

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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2018, 11:00:58 AM »
OK. I've read about super glue a lot, I'm more of the duct tape and coat hanger type but I can try new things.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2018, 11:24:50 AM »
CA glue has a particular property that makes is useful in bow building.  It can fit in tiny cracks were other glues can't.   
Unibond is a gap filling glue and wouldn't get to the end or beginning of a crack where the glue it needed the most.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2018, 12:30:15 PM »
That's what I thought, so I should put it in there until its full, multiple applications. That's what I've read anyhow.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2018, 04:42:39 PM »
The real thin water like CA works great for crack filling I have had cracks like that before on sinew bows ! I never made a wood tri lam but those length wise cracks most times are a non issue on other wood bows other then esthetics !
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2018, 10:14:36 PM »
All i have on hand is gel, I know that want work, have to get to town to get the right stuff. Saturday maybe.
Thanks guys.
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