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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2018, 01:34:38 PM »
I have had great success with Super glue normally on cracks about .006" -  (6 thou in layman's terms).  Has not let me down yet.  I hate seeing cracks like that, a bowyers nightmare....... :scared:
I used feeler gauges exclusively in rebuilding car engines now I'm using it for bow building, go figure.   Digital caliper.............whats that...?  I'm old school if it breaks its the material dont need any fancy digital malarkey to tell me any different.

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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2018, 10:19:03 PM »
Well tomato boy..

What's the deal?

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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2018, 08:37:59 AM »
Been busy, gonna get some glue in there and a riser on it today. Don't rush an old man.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2018, 07:09:53 AM »
Got the riser on and all cleaned up, it happened without pics. Ill get some this evening when I start tillering. Got some internet connection problems, gonna halve to call someone to fix it.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2018, 07:02:38 AM »
I will make one of these damn things one day but evidently not today. The belly wood is thinner than the core and backing, it still wont bend in an arc. I never touched the fade area it bends in a V shape. Mid and outer limbs are straight as a board at 3/16 of belly wood.  I think this hickory is cursed.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is not an option.
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2018, 07:03:22 AM »
I will make one of these damn things one day but evidently not today. The belly wood is thinner than the core and backing, it still wont bend in an arc. I never touched the fade area it bends in a V shape. Mid and outer limbs are straight as a board at 20 inches and 3/16 of belly wood.  I think this hickory is cursed.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2018, 07:16:16 AM »
Pictures Johnny..

Sounds like the fade area was made too narrow or the limbs are too wide and thick.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2018, 07:31:52 AM »
Ill get some, kinda embarrassing. She's not dead yet.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2018, 08:08:52 AM »
Ok, don't worry about failures, you are still new to this tillering thing.
 
I had a lot of failures early on in making bows. Still do once in a while.

Maybe on your next bow, don't put in so much reflex. Also Hickory is a very strong wood.

Were you at 20 inches on a long string?

When my bows are done, the outer 2/3rds of the limbs are flat at a 6.5" brace.



Same bow at 32 inches on tree.


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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2018, 08:17:02 AM »
Was this bow symmetrical or asymmetrical?

This one picture a ways back doesn't look right, unless it's just the picture?




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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2018, 08:25:23 AM »
Its the pic, it was perfectly symmetrical.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2018, 10:12:17 AM »
Pictures Johnny..

Haha. 

I don't want to pull you in a bunch of different directions.  I'll just say that I find Roy's look straight to me at brace, and you don't have to make it bend in an arch.  And 3/16" belly thickness is fine.  I wouldn't think you'll run into trouble there until you get closer to 1/8".   
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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2018, 01:40:07 PM »
Johnny, tomorrow you are gonna have a smile on your face.

But I'm not sayen why..

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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2018, 07:18:43 AM »
Roy, its 7:20 a.m. I aint smiling, I'm knee deep in chicken crap. That bow is toast, I got ticked off and started hacking away with the scraper, should have walked away. Oh well we shale try again.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2018, 07:38:18 AM »
It's still early...
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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2018, 01:52:11 PM »
Thanks Roy, how did you know I was almost outa beer?
What are the measurements? 66 long, 1.5 for 6 inches taper to half inch tips? 4 inch long 3/4 handle and  4 inch fades?
Backing strip? hickory 1/8th or bamboo? I can only get my boo to barely over an inch wide. I have one backing strip that's hickory but its 3/32nds
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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2018, 01:54:15 PM »
I will start a new thread when I start, if it works ill donate it to the St. Jude thingy.
I'm smiling now.
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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2018, 02:58:18 PM »
Yup on measurements.

I would buy a bamboo backing if I were you...

Hickory has caused you nothing but trouble.

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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2018, 03:13:54 PM »
Hey, I have trouble getting osage too....not fair
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Re: New Trilam, failure is sometimes inevitable.
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2018, 04:08:57 PM »
Ill get some boo.
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