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Author Topic: Single bevels  (Read 4467 times)

Offline txcookie

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Single bevels
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:30:59 PM »
I can't sharpen these grizzled to save my life.
Is it deer season yet?

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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 11:34:47 PM »
Me either! That’s why I stick with double bevels!

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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2018, 12:20:08 AM »
There's two bevels on single bevels too, at least there is on mine and my friends, just the second one is basically a silver hair of a bevel, makes the edge more durable. Don't push too hard or the blade will flex and throw you off. They still spin through the target. Grizzlies are super hard to set the grind on. Belt sander with 400 grit makes it a breeze though!
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2018, 02:03:39 AM »
I just got in a grizzly, bruin and kodiak to finish out my big broadhead test. One of my tests will be difficulty to sharpen. The grizzly heads seem like a much rougher grind than tuffhead, steelforce or cutthroat but they are still much better than my tuskers. The tuffhead, steelforce and cutthroat will all shave right out of the package
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2018, 07:17:31 AM »
I had to buy a KME knife sharpener to get the perfect edge on a grizzly, but I'm now very glad that I did.

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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2018, 09:18:04 AM »
I bought the stay sharp guide from 3 rivers and it worked perfectly the first time I tried it and I'm very inexperienced in sharpening. Good luck!
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2018, 09:37:48 AM »
with a KME sharpener, I've found grizzly single bevels to be the easiest thing I've ever sharpened.  Quick and simply shaving edge.

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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2018, 10:10:49 AM »
Another vote for the KME.  Although I use multiple two and three blade heads for hunting, Grizzlies are always in my quiver.  They do come rough, there is no denying that but they are worth the little extra work IMHO.   
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2018, 10:21:34 AM »
The KME broadhead sharpener and a really good agressive course stone is what I use to set the initial angles on the grizzlies.  The older ones were way off, but I hear the new ones actually come with a burr on them.  The trick is to true up the flat side first with the edge of the stone.  Then stay on the angled side until you have a burr the entire length.  You are now 90% done sharpening.  Just knock the burr off the backside and progress through as fine of stone or paper that you'd like. Ron at KME will actually stay on the phone with you until you have one hair popping sharp.  Great guy, great product, and great customer service---that's KME.

P.S.---I'm sure there are other ways to get them sharp, but this is the only way that I have found success.  Also finish by stropping with leather or cardboard.

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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2018, 11:42:26 AM »
Chris once you get past the learning curve it's all good.  Or, PM me.  You can send them to me and I'll sharpen them for you.
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2018, 11:47:00 AM »
Chris once you get past the learning curve it's all good.  Or, PM me.  You can send them to me and I'll sharpen them for you.
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2018, 12:39:17 PM »
Single bevels aren't any harder to sharpen than doubles,they just have two less bevels.I do go to the flat,backside with a fine hone,occasionally,to remove any burr.
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2018, 01:22:08 PM »
I gave up as well.  Figured that if I have to buy a special sharpener, then it doesn't belong in my pack.

I may revisit it later.  But for now, I'm sticking with what I know & can do easily.

Strangely, a well-sharpened single bevel will roll down my arm like a butter knife one day and shave a patch clean the next.  Don't know why but the same blade has different results for the shave test.  Doubles shave me every time.  Must be my wife's girly soaps or something.  Whatever the case, it makes it hard to have confidence in my singles with those inconsistent test results off the same darned blade.
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2018, 07:34:23 PM »
I agree in part with YosemiteSam.  I couldn't get a consistent, shaving sharp, smooth edge unless I used some type of bulky sharpening "tool" on them that I didn't want to lug around in the field.  So, I used a 6 inch file on them just like I used on my Zwickey bhs.  They would slice paper like crazy and easily cut rubber bands with this edge.  I even harvested 3 or 4 deer with them through out the years with overall satisfactory results.  (Sometimes good bloodtrails, sometimes not much...some times outstanding penetration, sometimes less than what I expected)  I have noticed a "rolled" or "wavy" edge on several of them after taking a deer.  I don't know if that is because I filed sharpened them or what, but I have never experienced that with a Zwickey double bevel. You may say, "So what?  You got your deer, didn't you?" and you would be correct, but I prefer not to have that.  I think (just my opinion) that the edge is too thin and that leads to the deformation I experienced.  I don't shoot 650 grain arrows out of my 43 pound bow and I'm not expecting to shoot through any shoulder blades with any broadhead so I don't really see that much of an advantage over my Zwickeys.   I wish now I hadn't unloaded my stash of Eskimos :banghead:  Oh well, I see some Lean, Mean, Green, Deer Getting Machines, in my future!  (Zwickey No Mercy's that is!) :thumbsup:
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2018, 07:53:53 PM »
The bevel is more acute on a single bevel than a double bevel.  That should make them easier to get sharp(er).  But, as you point out, unless it's good steel, a very acute edge is prone to turning over a bit, particularly if it hits bone.  Even when that happens, they're still sharp enough to get the job done.  Regardless, I've never had difficulty getting them sharp, nor have I had trouble with the edges staying sharp. This is for Abowyer single bevels.  Don't know about others. 

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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2018, 07:55:44 PM »
Lean, Mean, Green,

That's funny because I'm having that put on my current bow being built! :laughing: :laughing:
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2018, 08:00:50 PM »
Haven't you heard that "great minds think alike"?   :bigsmyl:
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2018, 08:04:14 PM »
I emailed Mike at Maddog just yesterday morning and asked him to put that on the bottom limb of my bow. It is being built with the green glass. I have a green arm guard coming from ST. Jude's and a GN quiver in green coming also. I'm calling it the "Goblin Project". :biglaugh:
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2018, 08:14:16 PM »
Sounds sweet!  Make sure you post some pictures when you get it!
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Re: Single bevels
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2018, 08:17:39 PM »
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