Author Topic: Shop set up (Read 6357 times)

EwokArcher · « **on:** July 19, 2018, 07:47:44 PM »

It's a hooot summer. And dusty in my little 12x16 shop. I usually leave the shop door open open the windows and leave a medium sized floor fan blowing air out of the big door to circulate air. I just leaf blow out dust frequently. And pretty much always wear a half face respirator. So I see a 2hp dust collector from harbor freight like 169$. I wonder if that dust collection could get me out of this hot mask. Or just invest the 200$ into a bigger fan and keep the mask on. Thanks for your input guys.
Dont mind the mess just wrapping up some projects

Wolftrail · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2018, 07:52:04 PM »

Looks good. Dust is always a problem. I would cut a 24" hole in the wall and install an exhaust fan.
Only thing I would do different is build a concrete slab level with the floor outside for sliding out the table saw and other power tools.

EwokArcher · « **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2018, 08:01:04 PM »

This was my first building project when we moved in a few years ago. I learned basic concrete and roofing building this shop. Two professions I greatly respect and sure dont envy.
I like the exhaust fan idea I'll think it over. I guess they are shuttered and I'd have to frame out the hole I cut.. probably worth a google.

kennym · « **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2018, 08:29:07 PM »

I don't know much about HVAC but if you put the fan to blow out the window with some sort of shroud to make it pull all shop air and pulled air in the big door, wouldn't it move more air? Just a thought...

EwokArcher · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2018, 08:37:48 PM »

Kenny I think I will try that before I cut a hole in my wall!

There is still winter time to consider. I have a little propane heater that can really knock the edge off of our already mild winters. But I've pretty much still had to leave the door open due to dust build up. Which also keeps me from being able to run heater. Maybe I should do the dust collection and try that fan window trick. How big of a difference do those things make compared to like a shop vac. Here is what I'm looking at.

kennym · « **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2018, 08:48:54 PM »

My collector I moved to the back room of shop because it sounded like a jet in the workplace.

It pulls all the dust from the big sander through 20 some feet of 4" pipe , I thought it would be the worst dustmaker.

The tablesaw is actually the worst because I (gulp) don't have the plexi shield on the blade because it hinders vision on what you are doing. So it spits chips and dust out a lot.

The edge sander loses some off the side of table but dust collector still gets a lot of it too.

wood carver 2 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2018, 09:22:50 PM »

One weekend my Dad and I were sawing a bunch of white oak and after each board, we'd go outside and cough out the thick sawdust. Shortly after that, I bought a 1 1/2 hp. dust collector. Man, what a difference! Two hp for $169! I would jump on that deal! I even use mine to clean the shop. (on the rare occasion that I do clean)

Dave.

pditto613 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2018, 10:22:41 PM »

I have the hf dust collector. Never had an issue with. Works well with belt and drum sander, joiner, planer and bandsaw. Like Kenny i don’t have the guard on my table saw and it is the biggest produced of uncaptured dust. It pulls the chips out of the joiner from 20 feet away. Plenty of power

Roy from Pa · « **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2018, 10:47:22 PM »

Ya only have 2 lungs.

Get the big dust collector and buy a dust deputy along with it and you will cut your dust by 80%

https://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=AXD000004A

EwokArcher · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2018, 07:27:59 AM »

Pat I couldnt agree more on the only 2 lungs thing. I'm kind of paranoid. Unless I had dust down to minimal I'd probably still be wearing a mask. Just not worth it. Anything that you cant cough up the lungs assimilate and it becomes scar tissue.

Forwardhandle · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2018, 07:54:43 AM »

I have a small shop/garage/junk room I made a shelf and mounted the dust collector on the wall & run a portable 4 '' hose to the equipment needed ,I kinda like the hum it relaxes me...lol

Eric Krewson · « **Reply #11 on:** July 20, 2018, 09:41:27 AM »

I have a 2hp Griz collector, it does a pretty good job of keeping the dust out of my shop. I have 4" lines going to every piece of equipment as well as my work bench. I still use a shop vac for the floor because there is still a bit of dust floating around from rasping, hand sanding and such.

You are wise to wear the respirator, a large number of us old bow makers have developed an allergic reaction to several types of wood dust, in my case just about everything but pine.

My collector is big and powerful but sounds like a B-52 taking off when it is running. Consequently I have installed it in an adjacent room to my shop with a heavily insulated wall in between so I don't have to listen to it.

C. Johnson · « **Reply #12 on:** July 20, 2018, 12:18:39 PM »

I, too, have only a small shop. It's a 20' X 20' detached heated garage. However, I only have about 60% of it available as work space due to storage needs. Also, I have the stand up freezer and spare refrigerator in there as I have no other place to put them. This pic is the storage side where I have a 30" X 96" assembly table.

C. Johnson · « **Reply #13 on:** July 20, 2018, 12:25:03 PM »

To address the issue of dust, I highly recommend buying the biggest dust collector you can afford. I run mine in conjunction with a cyclonic separator which I mounted on a wheeled cart so I can easily move it where ever I need it. Actually, my shop is a constant game of musical power tools. EVERYTHING that I can't easily lift, even my oven, is mounted on wheels. In summer, I will often move tools, particularly the tablesaw outside to work. The dust collector can be wheeled outside too to make room.

C. Johnson · « **Reply #14 on:** July 20, 2018, 12:26:34 PM »

This last pic is of my main work area.

Robertfishes · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2018, 01:23:18 PM »

I have the 2hp HF dust collector next to my 12x24 shop, it is in a small plastic building separate from my shop. I cut a hole thru my shop wall for the 4 inch plastic pipe. I also have a homemade 30 gallon trash can clycone between the shop and dust collector. The clycone catches 99% of the dust so it never reaches the actual dust collector. Keeping the collector outside the shop reduces the very fine airborne dust in the shop that can pass thru the bag filter. And noise is out side the shop too.

Wolftrail · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2018, 03:51:40 PM »

Quote from: kennym on July 19, 2018, 08:29:07 PM

I don't know much about HVAC but if you put the fan to blow out the window with some sort of shroud to make it pull all shop air and pulled air in the big door, wouldn't it move more air? Just a thought...

The window idea is perfect but limited to the window size. Although that small shop should be adequate with a smaller window fan.

Roy from Pa · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2018, 03:58:37 PM »

I keep my shop spotless..

wood carver 2 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 20, 2018, 04:50:54 PM »

Quote from: Roy from Pa on July 20, 2018, 03:58:37 PM

I keep my shop spotless..

After seeing this, I won't even post a picture of my shop. It looks like someone dumped a truckload of wood and machinery and sawdust into my garage and then shook the whole thing.

Dave.

kennym · « **Reply #19 on:** July 20, 2018, 07:34:56 PM »

That ain't a bow shop, no way!! You actually build any bows? Or get them somewhere and just take pics in there?

Just messin with yer mind, bro!

Nice tidy shop! Wish mine looked like that some time...

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