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Little herters here I go. Now on round 2 pg 3.
« on: July 29, 2018, 02:27:26 PM »
How does it look so far? I am basing this mostly on plans I picked up from bjansen except I am gonna lay the handle out a little different. I am thinking I'll have a continuous piece of glass going through the belly of the handle then do overlays for thickness in the palm. I've seen the guys build the upper part of their forms to accommodate ramping the belly glass up the lower limb handle and I think maybe I'm taking out some complexity doing it this way. Next question is a basic one. How much space do you think I should cut out for my 2 inch air hose? This is a 1.75 form wide. I was thinking I'd cut about  1 extra inch off the whole top part of the form.
Thanks for looking! I've been thinking about doing this build since I made my first glass bow a few years ago I'm pumped.
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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2018, 05:28:02 PM »
If you cut an inch , be sure to put the forms in place and then scribe the inch. The curves don't match when you spread them.

If the inch is too tight, you could drill the bigger bolt hole a little bigger to give some slack. That may not help as much on a recurve a the limb ends.

I love the look of those short bows, but I shoot longer ones much better!
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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2018, 06:26:37 PM »
Cool an inch it is. Hope someone can help me come up with a string length/brace height also. This is the 46 in.

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2018, 06:35:49 PM »
That's a radical little bow.  Can't wait to see how it comes out.  String and brace height will probably be all about experimenting.

Only suggestion I have is get some stabilcore from Kenny.  Those limbs are gonna have a mind of their own.
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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2018, 08:40:24 PM »
Yes, definitely needs stabil core or uni-weft.  I have a short recurve design like that with deep hooks.  It will help.

Out of curiosity, what is your riser length?

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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2018, 11:18:20 PM »
Get with Truxturning he did several of those little shorties a few years back.  He never used uniweft or stabil core in his the originals only had glass as well.  My buddy had one of those back in late 1960's it was a fun little bow.

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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2018, 09:56:21 AM »
The riser length is 12 inches. One huge perk I'm seeing is how little material is requiredin these. I think bjansen did not use stabile core. However I ordered enough glass from kenny to do a few of these while I work out the kinks.

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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2018, 09:48:58 AM »
I always liked the looks of those old Herters bows you still see one around every now and again in antique shops around here !
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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2018, 09:58:22 AM »
Got some work done this morning. Made a template for my router bearing to follow. Cut out my 1 inch gap for my air hose on the band saw, I think smarter man would make 1 rough cut to split the form then 2 more cuts a little cleaner to get close to the lines with less muscle involved.
Ps: just got my supply package in from kennym and Amazon could take notes from our buddies packing job, everything looks great, and I got it way sooner than I expected.

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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2018, 11:25:23 AM »
Looking good!

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2018, 12:30:04 PM »
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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2018, 01:47:51 PM »
Too late now but I like to drill the strap holes before cutting the form apart. It is looking good for sure.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2018, 02:24:45 PM »
Looks like a fun project...  Wish you Good Luck with it...

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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2018, 03:05:08 PM »
Those are wise words crooked stick! I have a fresh set of straps ill just put these pieces back together and that will keep the guess and measure work out of lining everything up to drill holes later.

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2018, 04:36:34 PM »
Yes sir that would work also.
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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2018, 08:28:06 AM »
It's a little bit of a sloppy way to get there,... but about 30 minutes of router work later I have a 1.75 form. ( I was using up left over plywood)

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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2018, 02:30:49 PM »
Got some more work done last night. Used my template and flush trim router bit to finish shaping the form. Drilled the holes for brackets and sliced up a thin piece of maple to go along the edge of the form as a pressure strip to give a clean smooth surface for the glass to rest against. My fire hose is way too long I dont know if I'll be able to put this form in the hot box. Also I need to add a couple pieces of wood to widen out the straps cause the fire hose is pinching up on them. Making forms is a pain but do it right and I guess you only have to do it once.

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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2018, 05:16:24 AM »
Looking good!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2018, 09:22:21 AM »
Great...  Almost ready for Take-Off... 

Don't worry about the hotbox...  Just cure at room temp. and stick it in the box the next day for a couple of hours...  If it's gonna move it will move then and not when it is out in the hot sun or in the back of a car...  At least that's my theory...

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Re: Little herters here I go.
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2018, 11:13:23 PM »
Minor update. Added some width at the bolting sites of the form with a quarter inch piece of oak on each side with a hole drilled through to give my fire hose more clearance. The hose I am using originally was included with the binghams 2 inch wide recurve kit.

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