Blood Clotting products

[Pete McMiller]

For those that have used them or are taking anti-coagulants like Plavix, Warfarin, etc., any recommendations for products to help stop bleeding?  Had to go on Plavix after several stents were installed in January and find that even a little nick takes forever to clot up.  Can't imagine what a broadhead would do and how hard it would be to stop the bleeding. 

[gregg dudley]

The emergency bandage kits provided to military and law enforcement included gauze or other materials that are impregnated with kaolin.  It is not an organic substance, but has been approved as a vehicle to accelerate clotting in emergency situations.  You can buy various products online or at Dick's, Cabela's, Bass Pro, etc.  I just took a trauma first aid class and that was recommended for emergency response kits as well as a commercially available and professionally certified tourniquet.

[Cavscout9753]

The emergency bandage kits provided to military and law enforcement included gauze or other materials that are impregnated with kaolin.  It is not an organic substance, but has been approved as a vehicle to accelerate clotting in emergency situations.  You can buy various products online or at Dick's, Cabela's, Bass Pro, etc.  I just took a trauma first aid class and that was recommended for emergency response kits as well as a commercially available and professionally certified tourniquet.

Mr, Dudley covered the answer very well, when we first started getting quick-clot in Iraq it was made from shellfish. Don’t ask me why. I don’t want to hijack this thread or post, but I wish more hunters were like Mr. Dudley. Taking a trauma first aide class is probably one of THE best things any outdoorsman can do. Even if you do everything perfect out there, nature gets a vote. Besides, the folks hunting and fishing around you may not be so safe, and you might be the difference between their life or death.

[Pete McMiller]

Thanks Gregg and Cavscout,  Gregg, during your trauma class did they cover the clotting powders available like Wound Seal, etc.?  Granted, during a real trauma event the larger kit will certainly be affective but for the run of the mill filet knife, fish spine, broadhead nicks and cuts it would seem that the powders might be helpful.    I've never had a problem with those just mentioned but since being on Plavix stopping even oozing blood is more difficult - sometimes taking as much as 24 hours to close up.

[McDave]

I’ve been on Cumadin for years, and gradually have gotten used to bleeding. Granted, if you were going to lose a serious amount of blood, you would want to do something about it, quickly. But when I bang the back of my hand against something that most people wouldn’t even notice, I bleed a lot. I just hold my hand away from my body and let it drip. It stops in 20 or 30 minutes, and I wash up the dried blood the next chance I get. For cuts a little worse than that, pressure helps, from a thumb or a bandage.

[M60gunner]

I buy this spray stuff at CVS or Walgreens. Small bottle so I carry one in my car, in my quivers. So far I used it once when I fell in the stones and scraped up my arms. Not sure about a serious cut, trying to avoid that.
 Personally I like seeing threads like this. We Bowhunters are loners by nature and this type of info can save a life. I know there’s a child forum on getting ready for a hunt but unless I was going on such a hunt I probably wouldn’t read it in detail. Maybe another child forum on Safety? This thread would be a good start?

[Huntschool]

Though I am no longer on Plavix I still bleed quite freely and bruise merely by the swipe of a branch.  You should see my arms.....

I have had success on smaller cuts with the old septic shaving stick and light pressure with a band aide.  I have also used super glue when I could get the blood flow reduced enough to get it on the cut. However, with a larger cut all bets are off.  Some of the older guys here may remember my post "I Almost Died" from a number of years back when I stabbed myself with a broad head.

Be careful out there.

[1kwikstik]

I need to get something and keep in my pack. I hunt alone 99% of the time, and have been on Warfarin for the last 3 years.If I cut myself shaving it leaks for days. Thanks for the reminder!

[gregg dudley]

I am no expert, but what I was led to understand is that professionals are steering clear of the powders because any significant blood flow will wash them out of the wound channel before they have a clot.   The impregnated gauze works together to keep that from happening.  We practiced packing the gauze deep into a "wound".

[Biathlonman]

They issue Cellox at work, thats what makes it into my hunting kit.

[GCook]

I'm on Plavix as well and carry QuikClot.

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[erictetterton]

Combat gauze and pressure tape is what you need. We use it all the time at the hospital and it works wonders. I’ve stopped hemorrhaging AV fistula with that stuff and can say first hand that it works.

[LongbowArchitect]

QuikClot in my first aid kit.

[J-dog]

hinking for day to day I nicked myself but bleed alot due to thinners --- up to holy cow I ain't gonna make it - 

For small stuff, just some sort of decent gauze (regular) that you can apply with a pressure wrap of some sort. Something more serious to a thinner user but still not a regular persons radar? decent BH slice? impregnated combat gauze? many out there your choice. I also like the Israeli style bandage it is quick and applies pressure as well. Lastly have a combat tourniquet of some sort. Think we should all carry one the problem is realizing when you need it and when you don't for folks that have never seen alot of blood! You can really slim down your kit and not be trying to carry a pharmacy! just a couple things for bad occasions.

Really study or talk to docs? local medics? someone to learn exactly what alot of blood loss really is. Trauma class as mentioned above?

J

[Sam McMichael]

Not for a serious wound, but for minor nicks and cuts, plain old black pepper is surprisingly effective. Just pour it into the cut then bandage it. Pepper does not burn when used this way. Gregg, that first aid course sounds very interesting. Did it cover how to use these types of wound dressings? I have some of the clotting bandages in my first aid kit, but I don't have a clue if there is any special consideration when using them.

[gregg dudley]

Sam, we practiced on dummies that had simulated knife wounds/cuts, puncture wounds, gunshot entry, and gunshot exit.  In any case,the practice was to press the battle gauze as deeplyinto the wound as possible and pack it tight. We were instructed to shove it as deep into the wound as we could.

[Deno]

Good info Gregg and Lucas.  I was putting my kit together earlier today.

Deno

[Pete McMiller]

Thanks All for the comments and suggestions.  Gregg, I will be looking for a Trauma first aide class, I realize there is much I don't know.  Looks like some clotting powder for minor events and combat gauze and tape for anything major.  Also, I have a messaged my Doc for another opinion/confirmation. 

[Hummer3T]

I carry quick-clot pads, can be bought at lots of outdoor stores, I also carry several pads (women's sanitary pads) in my pack - they are sterile, absorbent, cheep and effective. 

[Doug_K]

No blood thinners here, but I carry a couple packs of celox in my first aid when I'm out in the sticks by myself. Haven't had to use it, so I'm not sure how well it works.

Tourniquet probably wouldn't be a bad idea.