Help with shooting consistently left

[zwickey2bl]

Been making up some new arrows in preparation for an elk hunt. My shafts are ash, 60# spine, cut to 29.5" nock to bop. Shooting a H-H Big Five that draws 58# at 28.5". I'm shooting consistently left about 4" at 20 yards. Still mentally/visually correcting for the heavier shafts (was shooting POC), but the 4" left thing is consistent. What do you think? Over-spined? Something else? Help me.

[Roy from Pa]

What weight points?

[joebuck]

increase your side pressure plate thickness.  Try like a toothpick. Get that arrow to "bend" around the riser to start parodox more to right......is one suggestion if you dont want to monkey with arrow pt weight

[jess stuart]

Make sure you are getting your anchor into your face fully.  I have trouble anchoring to far from my face at time making my arrows go to the left.  A general rule. shooting left arrows are stiff.

[BAK]

Sure sounds like too stiff arrow shafts.  Try adding point weight to see what happens.  Be extreme as it will tell you much quicker than just playing with a few grains at a time.  If they are too stiff, building out the shelf side plate will just make it worse.

 

[zwickey2bl]

Thanks guys. Gives me a couple of things to try. Have to scrap around and see if I've got some heavier glue on field points. I'm shooting 125 grain right now. But mybroadheads are 125s, too, so if a heavier point helps, what can I do to add weight to my blades?

[C. Johnson]

Make sure you're not death gripping the bow.  When I shoot a heavier bow I have a bad habit of doing that and my arrows go way left.

[zwickey2bl]

I've always gripped a longbow pretty firmly, but I'll try loosening up a bit. Be great if it is as simple as that.

[Don Stokes]

If they're too stiff, heavier points should help by putting a little more bend in the shaft. I'd try joebuck's suggestion too- easy enough to check, and I've had that help some situations.

[Bowguy67]

I’d start where Jess said. If you’re consistently left check your form first. If that’s good than check the arrows

[the rifleman]

Stop!  Before you make changes to equipment-- point weight, sideplate etc., Reconfirm all elements of your form.  You can verify by shooting your old arrows along with the new ones.  Most of my rights and lefts are form issues.  Once you've confirmed no form issues, then is the time to begin tuning.  If you do need to tune to move them to the right, try increasing the brace height first.

[rraming]

may seem odd but if I use a really light grip on my recurve widows, they go left every time. I thought if you plucked a little, it goes left and maybe looking up too fast, stiff arrow goes left and aiming left goes left

[Jim Casto Jr]

Even a grossly out-of-spine arrow will fly down the middle--bare shafts are a different story.

 I'd suggest you have an alignment issue.

[Hud]

When I have a question about left, right, high, low. I usually start close to the target with either a vertical line, or cross on paper. You can bare shaft and compare the same arrows with fletch, and field points or broadheads. The only difference is what you shoot into.  Straw bales have grain and can produce questionable results.

If your checking form and arrows because you are not sure, use a vertical line, stand close 10 -15 ft and see what you find. Aim at the vertical line.
If it is a tuning problem then refer to the following, from Elite Arrows:

http://elitearrows.com/proper-arrow/

[JRY309]

My experience with my Hill is they require a weaker spine then you might think.They  are not even close to center,usally around 3/16" to 1/4" off center.They are to stiff,I would try a weaker spine or heavier point.You could try canting the bow more to see if your arrows move to the right?I find that can help if I'm shooting too stiff a spine arrow with a longbow cut far off center.

[pavan]

Like what was previously stated, if you have arrows that do not shoot left compare them in flight.  A bow that is not center shot can have a different reaction to arrow spine than a takedown recurve.  The cant of the bow, the grip, the archer peeking to watch an arrow fly can change the head position.  It could also be that his first arrows were flying to the right and he adapted to them, so now the new heavier arrows seem to be going left.   If the arrows are very stiff, often they can be heard clipping the bow. Perhaps a bit more brace height can show an improvement.

[WESTBROOK]

.... Perhaps a bit more brace height can show an improvement.

Kind of what I was thinking. A 60# Ash shaft wont fly exactly like a 60# POC. The hardwood shafts flex a little slower, so.....try a little higher brace height....maybe a 1/4".

[Roy from Pa]

[pavan]

Because of the shaft weight differences from ash to poc to carbon what works for a bare shaft carbon out of a inside of center recurve, often does not apply to the outside of center longbow with a hardwood arrow or often even to the poc.   

[trad_bowhunter1965]

There two things you can do to see if your arrow is to stiff first and easiest is take some dental floss wrap it around where your nock if on your string it just take 1 or 2 wraps. This will weaken the spine of your arrow and it should move your arrow group to the right. if this works just replace your serving with a little thicker serving thread. If you still hit left your arrow might be hitting your bow. The second is to get foot powder and spray your arrow to see if your arrow is hitting your bow.