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My heat box got cruise control
« on: October 11, 2018, 03:55:59 PM »
I finally put together my temp control module. Thanks to skeaterbait, for the inspiration. Their was a thread awhile ago about thermostats for heat boxes, which got me excited (doesn't take much). I originally was looking for a plug and play model, but there was nothing for my 240v element. I did find a controller that would work on any voltage, they are called PID controllers and apparently they are essentially the same as a cruise control unit. They don't work work as an on/off switch, they modulate the output to keep the actual temp as close to the set temp as possible.
I need to state, it is overkill  for a bow box, but it works so well. I do have some other uses in mind, I can use it to cool my greenhouse in the summer and heat in the spring/fall seasons. I also plan to use it to control a kiln to heat treat some A2 steel.
The funky layout in the box, is so I could access all the terminals on the switches and outlets. I added a 120v outlet, which is on as long as the unit is plugged in, to run a axial fan in the box. The switch turns on everything else. The fan is awesome, no hot spots while your baking. The whole shebang was not expensive either, $33. for the PID unit, solid state relay, heat sink and thermocouple. I got the rest of the parts at my favorite discount store, Habitat for Humanity. Total cost was just under $50. The muffin fan,I bought awhile ago, was $17.
This thing is pretty sweet and I would recommend it for anybody thats upgraded from lightbulbs as a heat source. I am using a 300 watt element salvaged from a baseboard heater, which takes 12min to go from 57 to 160 degrees.

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2018, 04:09:45 PM »
I forgot to post a pic of the fan. Its rated to 250deg.

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2018, 04:25:07 PM »
Nice job...

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2018, 07:40:53 PM »
Didn't Clark Griswald have a setup like that?
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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2018, 07:54:39 PM »
That's where he got the plans.

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2018, 04:07:34 AM »
http://hotsyequipment.com/equipment/hotsy-heat-cannon/
Make a hole in your heatbox and install one or two of these and your glue is cured in no time. ;)

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2018, 07:59:16 AM »
HA Bue that may be a crispy critter to.
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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2018, 09:14:25 AM »
Very innovative.  I may go this way in the future, but for now I'm still in the stone ages with my lightbulbs.... ;)

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2018, 10:56:38 AM »
Clark Griswald? Isn't that the guy from National Lampoon Vacation? Actually this evolved over many years. I first used light bulbs, then switched to infrared emitters, then halogen puck lights and a heat gun. Finally after being constantly impatient, waiting for the box to get to temp, I found this baseboard heater on a remodel job and the light bulb went on and off for good. The fan came into use because the element created one hell of a hot spot.
I would be interested to see Griswold's setup, always room for improvement.

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2018, 11:22:29 AM »
Clark Griswald? Isn't that the guy from National Lampoon Vacation? Actually this evolved over many years. I first used light bulbs, then switched to infrared emitters, then halogen puck lights and a heat gun. Finally after being constantly impatient, waiting for the box to get to temp, I found this baseboard heater on a remodel job and the light bulb went on and off for good. The fan came into use because the element created one hell of a hot spot.
I would be interested to see Griswold's setup, always room for improvement.

Yep, and Christmas vacation. I was just yankin your chain, I envy your ability to put one of those together. Mine would end up more like the Griswald Christmas light power source.

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2018, 11:59:30 AM »
Sweet! I'm making that next, after I convert my 89' Corolla into a time machine.

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2018, 01:27:28 PM »
Very nice set up ,I bought one of those inkbird cruise controls but it only worked in the cooling mode ,I sent it back and Im back to manual shift 😃
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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2018, 01:33:57 PM »
Very nice set up ,I bought one of those inkbird cruise controls but it only worked in the cooling mode ,I sent it back and Im back to manual shift 😃

I just revisited the old thread where skeaterbait told us about his Inkbird unit. It looks like you got a temp controller also. Might look into a PID instead, next time.

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2018, 03:17:32 PM »
It is a kind of a bummer yours didn't work. I have had two of them so far and no trouble from either. I looked in to PID's but I ain't got the schoolin to make one work.
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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2018, 03:52:44 PM »
Skeats mine would only work in the cooling mode must have got a bad one lucky me I dont know any thing about the Pid I just need light bulbs control nothing like Flem uses you are the gizmo king 😃
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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2018, 04:29:31 PM »
Dang, those high tech gwass bows gots to be hard ta make...

I flip dah light switch and dah bulb lights.

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2018, 08:44:18 PM »
A buddy of mine calls me the Hillbilly, Rube Goldberg. Not sure if thats a complement.

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2018, 05:25:03 AM »
I still want to get around to making one of your vacum presses that would be the ultimate form machine , I come from a farming family and my brothers and I every night would go and make gizmos after dinner for entertainment we made every thing from Ham radios to zip guns...lol  my wife calls me a hill billy....lol
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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2018, 05:30:29 AM »
My wife says I'm a redneck.

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Re: My heat box got cruise control
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2018, 07:35:00 AM »
You guys got it good, my wife just calls me a dork.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2018, 08:23:27 AM by skeaterbait »
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