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Offline DanielB89

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Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« on: December 17, 2018, 11:00:25 AM »
With today's 3D targets getting smaller and smaller it's very easy to accidentally hit one of the pieces of metal in the legs. At one time, this wasn't a huge concern, but I have seen a drastic decrease in arrow toughness.  Specifically, when hitting something hard and the insert and point getting pushed back into the shaft splitting the shaft.  Now, every arrow shaft that I buy new must be footed with a 1.5" piece of aluminum arrow shaft. 

I remember Charlie Lamb started a thread on footing sizes and it is worth it's weight in gold.  With prices rising and quality dropping protect your arrows to the best of your ability.  This could also save you from the arrow splitting on a marginal shot. 

An added benefit is adding the footing is a slightly increased FOC as most aluminums weight more than your average carbon's gpi. 

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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2018, 04:27:22 PM »
Yes, been doing it for years now.
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2018, 05:00:12 PM »
All the archery clubs I've been to won't allow footed shafts for fear they will decrease target longevity.
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2018, 11:20:51 AM »
I foot all of mine as well... Very durable
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2018, 01:12:13 AM »
My shafts are footed from end to end.......Easton Axis Full Metal Jackets!!!!

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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2018, 06:12:24 AM »
I'll agree some current shafting isn't too tough. Some of that could be the length of the points and broad heads we use. I think that puts some extra leverage on shaft right behind the insert. I have had two arrows fail right behind the insert in the last 3 seasons. Costing me a buck each time. And most 3d targets are too small and the foam in some of them is really hard.
 I started started footing arrows, it's easy enough. But currently I am using Grizzlystiks. They have a really thick wall in the front and an insert with built in footing. The Grizzlystiks don't get many proponents on here but they work very well and are very tough.
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2018, 07:15:11 AM »
Quote from: Bisch on December 20, 2018, 01:12:13 AM
My shafts are footed from end to end.......Easton Axis Full Metal Jackets!!!!

Bisch

I even foot my FMJs.... :goldtooth:
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2018, 08:36:26 AM »
Quote from: KAZ on December 20, 2018, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: Bisch on December 20, 2018, 01:12:13 AM
My shafts are footed from end to end.......Easton Axis Full Metal Jackets!!!!

Bisch

I even foot my FMJs.... :goldtooth:

I do as well!
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 09:19:06 AM »
Quote from: KAZ on December 20, 2018, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: Bisch on December 20, 2018, 01:12:13 AM
My shafts are footed from end to end.......Easton Axis Full Metal Jackets!!!!

Bisch

I even foot my FMJs.... :goldtooth:

I’m as hard as the next guy on my arrows, and I just haven’t seen the need??? I guess it would help a bit in the FOC dept, but the FMJ shafts have proven to be tough as nails for me, so I don’t spend the time to foot mine.

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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2018, 09:49:51 AM »
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 09:52:23 AM »
do both ends it helps safe some arrows :bigsmyl:
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2018, 10:03:15 AM »
Look up Reparrows, perfect for easy footing and repairing wood arrows with tips broken off.

My late wife's arrows, she used to find a lot of rocks.







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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2018, 11:20:52 AM »
I'd like to know a list of all the arrow companies that their qualities went down.

 Please list them all so we can stay clear of them, and we don't end up with half of one in our forearm. Thx.
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2018, 01:41:10 PM »
Quote from: Bisch on December 20, 2018, 09:19:06 AM
Quote from: KAZ on December 20, 2018, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: Bisch on December 20, 2018, 01:12:13 AM
My shafts are footed from end to end.......Easton Axis Full Metal Jackets!!!!

Bisch

I even foot my FMJs.... :goldtooth:

I’m as hard as the next guy on my arrows, and I just haven’t seen the need??? I guess it would help a bit in the FOC dept, but the FMJ shafts have proven to be tough as nails for me, so I don’t spend the time to foot mine.

Busch


I may be looking into them next then! I purchased some arrows that have been VERY good to me in the past and I’m a little disappointed with the quality of them.  I noticed some of the wood grain was wearing off just from shooting a foam target.


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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2018, 01:48:58 PM »
Tom,

You said that all the clubs you attend will not allow footed shafts because they ruin their targets.  I do not understand that logic, as what would the difference be if you just shot an arrow the same size of the footed part of the shaft? I’ve never been to a club in my area that had that restriction, and the club I am a member of never has. Must be different in Australia.
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2018, 02:27:14 PM »
Daniel I'm serious. I'm in the market for new arrows and not the brand I've been using for years. I'm looking for some lighter spine arrows for a few bows that I have that are lighter in poundage. So I don't want to waste my money on substandard arrows. Please post which arrows are going down in quality so we will all know what to look out for.

Thanks
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2018, 05:38:40 PM »
Quote from: yeager on December 20, 2018, 01:48:58 PM
Tom,

You said that all the clubs you attend will not allow footed shafts because they ruin their targets.  I do not understand that logic, as what would the difference be if you just shot an arrow the same size of the footed part of the shaft? I’ve never been to a club in my area that had that restriction, and the club I am a member of never has. Must be different in Australia.

Hi, I guess they're worried about the back of the footing gouging the target as you pull it out. Just another reason on the long list I don't bother with clubs anymore.
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2018, 08:39:38 PM »
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2018, 09:49:09 PM »
Just run a bead of epoxy around the trailing edge of the footing, problem solved.   :archer: :coffee:  :archer2:  I shoot tapered maple and don't have a problem.
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Re: Arrow toughness advice.. footings
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2018, 11:39:13 PM »
Terry, Why are you changing brands? I'm shooting the Nitros in 500's...I love em.
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