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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1980 on: November 17, 2019, 09:39:07 AM »
Don't feel bad about the time Dave I have a horn/composite in the works 2 yrs...lol  I'm not seeing any severe prop twist from your pics but some times the prop twist works it's way out during tiller & if not you can always steam or heat it out good luck with your project !
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1981 on: November 17, 2019, 12:05:46 PM »
Some prop twist is acceptable in selfbows where it would not be with glass bows. You don't have very much twist, relatively speaking and it can be heated out but also tillered out. I'd get the limbs bending evenly and together and get to low brace and see the effects of the twist then like where it is and how much twist is in each limb. Once you are at that point you can clamp the stave to a caul and with heat, clamps and small wood wedges work out the twist(at least most of it) and at the same time add a bit of reflex.
 I'm assuming your draw length is 28" and if so I think kicking the tips up a little also will help with the long draw for a short stave. I'd say 28" is at the limit for a 60" selfbow and depending how much working limbs you'll have could over stress the bow.
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1982 on: November 17, 2019, 02:30:17 PM »
Some prop twist is acceptable in selfbows where it would not be with glass bows. You don't have very much twist, relatively speaking and it can be heated out but also tillered out. I'd get the limbs bending evenly and together and get to low brace and see the effects of the twist then like where it is and how much twist is in each limb. Once you are at that point you can clamp the stave to a caul and with heat, clamps and small wood wedges work out the twist(at least most of it) and at the same time add a bit of reflex.
 I'm assuming your draw length is 28" and if so I think kicking the tips up a little also will help with the long draw for a short stave. I'd say 28" is at the limit for a 60" selfbow and depending how much working limbs you'll have could over stress the bow.

I have a 26" draw. Here are some pics of the twist.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2019, 02:54:49 PM by Petrichor »
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1983 on: November 17, 2019, 05:51:22 PM »
Get it to low brace and see how it looks. The twist will not hurt the bow in that stave. Once you get it to brace, under tension, you will be able to better see the twist and where it is.
 Like I said before you can tiller out twist too. It is at full draw where you see good tiller, not in a relaxed stave. By removing wood from the strong side of each limb as the bow is drawn when you hit full draw the twist can be eliminated even though it is still there when relaxed.
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1984 on: November 17, 2019, 06:48:19 PM »
Sounds good guys. I'm gonna give it a go.
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1985 on: November 17, 2019, 11:28:05 PM »
Well my customer got his bow and is pretty happy with it...  Called it a 'shooter'...  Sent me some pics...  It is very rewarding when someone likes and appreciates something that you made...   The pics are at 25 - 30 and 35yds...


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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1986 on: November 17, 2019, 11:30:31 PM »
I'd call that a shooter indeed. Congrats
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1987 on: November 18, 2019, 03:17:42 AM »
Made some shavings for the first time in 6 months. Feels good to get on the draw knife. Laid a line down the bow at the centers of each tip. It's completely off the riser... heat gun in my future perhaps. Made a dozen arrows while I was at it too.
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1988 on: November 18, 2019, 04:24:59 AM »
Petrich you can also steam them , those lateral bends are delcate bends you cant force them to much if you got your limb thickness down to 5/8-1/2" you can steam a area for about an hour and take them out at different areas along the limbs you can make a simple caul out of 2 x4 or 6 steam generally works better then dry heat for those type bends for me ! I use a deep fryer for steam ! and you can take that deflex out at the same time .



« Last Edit: November 18, 2019, 04:37:54 AM by Forwardhandle »
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1989 on: November 18, 2019, 08:30:02 AM »
Well my customer got his bow and is pretty happy with it...  Called it a 'shooter'...  Sent me some pics...  It is very rewarding when someone likes and appreciates something that you made...   The pics are at 25 - 30 and 35yds...



Nice job Shredd :clapper:
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1990 on: November 18, 2019, 08:31:34 AM »
That is some very fine shooting.

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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1991 on: November 18, 2019, 08:48:39 AM »
That is some very fine shooting.

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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1992 on: November 18, 2019, 09:16:48 AM »
Wasn't zackly bout my bow...   Lol...  Yeah... And dont forget the flat spot too...    :saywhat:   :tongue:

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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1993 on: November 18, 2019, 09:41:46 AM »
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1994 on: November 18, 2019, 09:50:18 AM »
Shipping Roy Boy a Osage stage this morning
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1995 on: November 18, 2019, 09:59:17 AM »
Shipping ole Maxi Boy two bamboo backing strips this morning.


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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1996 on: November 18, 2019, 12:49:54 PM »
Petrich you can also steam them , those lateral bends are delcate bends you cant force them to much if you got your limb thickness down to 5/8-1/2" you can steam a area for about an hour and take them out at different areas along the limbs you can make a simple caul out of 2 x4 or 6 steam generally works better then dry heat for those type bends for me ! I use a deep fryer for steam ! and you can take that deflex out at the same time .



Any worries about checking with adding steam in the equation this far in? Is this also something I should just fix with tillering?
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1997 on: November 18, 2019, 02:04:27 PM »
Looks like Roy might be into some Oriental stick fighting.


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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1998 on: November 18, 2019, 02:10:16 PM »
Yeah I was going to set it on fire and start twirling it around and around
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Re: 2019 what did ya do today....
« Reply #1999 on: November 18, 2019, 04:17:13 PM »
You guys got some Kung Fu weapons there nice shooting bow there Shreedy , Dave I have never had a well seasoned stave check while steaming , I always keep the back sealed with shellac , steam is usauly gental , the lateral & deflex bends usauly don't tillier out but do what you feel comfterable with !
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