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Author Topic: Cheap way to add weight to carbons  (Read 3685 times)

Offline CMR

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Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« on: February 11, 2007, 08:57:00 PM »
I've been wanting to add some weight to my carbons so i'm gonna try a 100gr brass insert which is on the way from a TradGang member. Thanks again!
Anyhow, while doing some readng of some older TBM's, I came across an article on adding weight to alumimum arrows...by using rope!
Then it hit me.
I could try the same with carbons.
So I hurried to my work bench in the basement and found some rope I have for dragging deer. It didn't work, too large of a diameter. RATS!
So, I started looking around for something that would be small enough to fit into a Vapor shaft....and low and behold, I found it. Work boot shoe laces. I grabbed one and tried it. Fit perfectly.
Then my wife saw what I was doing and mentioned about all those metal wire clothes hangers we have......DING!! Another idea!! So, I grabbed some wire cutters, measured the length, made two cuts, straightened out the wire, and tried it. Yup, fit great except it was moving around inside the arrow.
Again, another DING went off in my head and headed over to my reloading/archery bench. Grabbed some felt tape and duct tape. On three spots on the wire, I wrapped some felt and duct tape. I placed the wire into the shart and TA-DA!! No more rattling. At the end of the wire I added extra tape so that the nock won't pop out when it hits a target.
Both ways added weight and the wire added a nice amount of weight. Can't tell ya what total weight is because my scale only goes to 500gr.
Well, i grabbed the bow and headed out back. Set up a target and shot both arrows. WOW. The one with the shoe lace improved penetration and didn't make any noise. Nock did pop out so i gotta work on that.
Tried the one with the wire. HOLY CRAP! Talk about penetration! It at least doubled to what i'm used to. Nock was still intact.
Both arrows flew great too.
Thought I'd pass along a way I found that would help with adding weight to carbon arrows.
Gonna make a few more to try this week.....
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Offline fireman_3311

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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2007, 09:14:00 PM »
I used to use 2 lengths of weed eater line, cut extra long, and press the nock in, using hot glue to keep it from popping out! That added 98 gr. to the shaft weight. I now use the weight tubes/straws! I bet the hanger really added the weight!!!
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2007, 09:15:00 PM »
Guys have used everything from black pepper and salt to oatmeal, weedwhacker line and a ton of other stuff and ya can buy weight tubes as well. ya can also use air tubing like for fish tanks which works well. I feel the best by far is the brass inserts though. Shawn
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2007, 09:34:00 PM »
I tried a bunch of make do things, and now it is only brass inserts.
 Consistant, and no problems at all.
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2007, 09:41:00 PM »
Where do you get brass inserts. I suppose that would help on my overspined arrows too. going from 100gr tip to 145 did help but I need some more weight. I think the inserts will be the ticket.
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2007, 09:43:00 PM »
3 Rivers sells the brass inserts.
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Offline buks2hunt

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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2007, 10:19:00 PM »
I just added salt to some old carbons I had around here for my old wheel bow and wow. You talk about penetration!! need to get the shafts weighed for a comparison but I would bet that it added atleast 100gr.
 Bill
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2007, 10:24:00 PM »
I stuff my Carbontechs with 1/4 inch nylon rope and they went from 450 gr to 610 gr. That's on a 29.5 inch arrow. Now they are a perfect weight for my 58 lb longbow. Have tried 1/8 steel cable and that bumped them up to 940 gr. A little too heavy that way!
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2007, 11:01:00 PM »
ROPE!

1/4" Hollow poly: 30" = 100gr. It's like God did it on purpose or something.   ;)

I enjoyed the results.  Once you get the hang of pulling the rope through, you'll like it too.

I tried 3/8" on my 2317's and came out 790gr for a 71# bow. (31" arrow)  Sweet.

Also like what it does to quiet the shafts.
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2007, 11:30:00 PM »
%%) cord, poly rope works wonders on th 5/16" carbon shafts.  Never thougha bout thicker for my 2315 for a 67# recurve, thanks True-position.  Might fiddle with some for the 2020 and 2215 that I shot on occasion from my LB.
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2007, 11:30:00 PM »
that's 550 cord !!!
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2007, 12:38:00 AM »
i use fish pump tubing  for my st epics, they fit perfectly.
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2007, 12:44:00 AM »
Shapeshifter told me to take expanding foam and fill the shaft, I think I remember him saying it added about 50 grains.

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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2007, 01:51:00 AM »
aireator hose for fish tanks work well also.
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2007, 10:20:00 AM »
What about for Carbon Express 45-60s?
Haven't received them, yet, so I don't know the interior hole diameter.  What have you all tried?
John
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2007, 10:21:00 AM »
What about for Carbon Express 45-60s?
Haven't received them, yet, so I don't know the interior hole diameter.  What have you all tried?
John
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2007, 12:36:00 PM »
weight tubes from 3 rivers. fit well and doesn't effect arrow flight or spine.
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2007, 12:46:00 PM »
I went with the weight tubes.  Like 4 bucks a dozen, cut it to length, drop it in and forget it.

I'm all for saving a dollar, but when something works, why mess around?
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2007, 12:56:00 PM »
Thanks!
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Re: Cheap way to add weight to carbons
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2007, 12:57:00 PM »
Where did ya find weight tubes $4/doz?
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