Bowdoc you can come early next year and stay at my house for a week if you want , this town needs some excitement , I'll take you around the Jersey pines and show you some monster deer ( 75-100 lb.er"s) Tom is a very serious hunter and I admire that , we were debating last night stand choices , he made the right choice and I hung on to a glimmer of hope that faded with the sunset ,there's always next year..... Hey JC nice avatar , congrats on a great bear and a greater story .Grant , Ron , Brent and Fletcher I envy your photo taking , It is one more thing I struggle with . I got my digital camera wet when crossing a cypress swamp at the Paradise and it has been a little fickle ever since , sometimes it works fine for a while and then it won't . I'd buy a new one but would screw it up soon anyway .