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Author Topic: Finding Wounded Big Game  (Read 4209 times)

Offline wayne rollinson

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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2019, 09:11:36 AM »
I totally understand Jerry I track wounded game in europe and the uk for organised events we are allowed off leash tracking and the law requires follow up in EU by trained and tested teams to legally cross boundary's in Eu,regards wayne, ps I also work a bavarian and the larger HS

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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2019, 09:28:23 AM »
You're in WVA. Some folks prolly think Jimmy is still president.

Thanks for the put down.  We aren't all dumb hillbillies you know.  :saywhat:
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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2019, 09:43:07 AM »
My son had trained his beagle for tracking . A man had shot a deer and couldn't find it so they put the dog at the tree stand. While changing leads she got away an ran the opposite way the hunter had said the deer ran . Sarcastically the hunter said some tracking dog that is . When they found the dog she was sanding over the buck . My son looked at him and said you didn't even know which way the deer ran at the shot, he didn't say a word .
  She found quite a few deer including one that had been lost for almost a week with a gut shot, they found it a 1/4 of a mile away  ! . Jeff Massie had hunts in Texas and used a great little dog for tracking that found lots of Javelinas, Jeff's dog found one for me  . I just think it was fun to watch them work .

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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2019, 10:42:44 AM »
Mn had legislation this year for tracking dogs but it failed to go through. Personally I had high hopes. I watched our PH's dog in Africa and thought it was great!

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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2019, 11:37:03 AM »
Excellent post Jerry!  I've had to call in a tracker a time or two myself and love watching them work.  It is truly amazing! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2019, 11:51:15 AM »
Mn had legislation this year for tracking dogs but it failed to go through. Personally I had high hopes. I watched our PH's dog in Africa and thought it was great!

Tracking with a blood dog is legal in Minnesota. 

 This is a link to the regulations.

https://www.unitedbloodtrackers.org/state-regulations/?state=mn

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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2019, 02:08:47 PM »
It's legal here in Montana.  Handler must maintain physical control of the dog at all times by means of a maximum 50-foot lead attached to the dog's collar or harness.
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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2019, 03:41:51 PM »
Here's my HS working on wild boar in Germany


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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2019, 01:39:04 PM »
A buddy of mine has one, some kind of cur. He’s pretty amazing. Over the last few years we have pretty much learned that if Elmo can’t find it, it’s because he’s not dead.


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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2019, 04:25:31 PM »
Here is one similar.  Single lung hit that required a follow up shot 20 hours later.


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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2019, 05:56:03 PM »
Thanks Jerry, it looks like it went through in the special session.

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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2019, 06:37:59 PM »
I love seeing the dogs of the Tradgang!  They are such an important part of what we do. 

This beautiful drop tine buck was gut shot and the hunter had given up hope on recovery because there was no blood trail to follow.  Bear Dog made short work of the track and the hunter got his first velvet buck. 

Gut shots are sometimes difficult to recover for humans but for a dog, they are very simple because of the huge amount of scent they leave.  The key is an absolute minimum of 12 hours before the track begins. Even after 12 hours we find many still alive but they are weak enough to recover. 

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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2019, 07:04:59 PM »
Well they can be simple as long as 6 guys didn’t track and grid search 45 minutes after the shot.   :banghead: 

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« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2019, 09:35:02 PM »
This was a huge Pope and Young Bear killed by a Tradgang member that was recovered by Bear Dog.  Amazingly, another hunter had passed on the giant bear. 

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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2019, 02:14:58 AM »
My dog is 13 but still likes to help.
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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2019, 05:09:06 AM »
I’ve never used one, but it’s a great resource.  I believe I saw some proposed rule changes to allow off lead and the tracker permission to dispatch the wounded animal in MI, but those were just proposed. I had a colleague use one once, but there  was a charge (I believe a little more than nominal).
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Re: Finding Wounded Big Game
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2019, 07:36:26 PM »
We had three guys use a dog (the same dog and handler) last season.  Good tool.  I have some some reservations however.
I'm just not in agreement with having "catch" dogs.  If an animal has a lower leg wound or a hit to a shoulder blade that stops the arrow and it could survive I don't see it as right to run that animal to exhaustion and then put it down with a gun.  We see animals with injuries like that survive all the time.
Also property lines have to be considered.  Just last year a good man with a good dog were tracking a deer, it crossed a fence line and the dog was shot by the neighboring landowner.  Although that individual faced prosecution it is a serious concern for both the dog and landowners.

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