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Author Topic: Long bow or recurve?  (Read 5993 times)

Offline Vabowman

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Long bow or recurve?
« on: September 11, 2019, 12:54:28 PM »
what is your preference and why? I have only owned recurves in the short time that I have done this. I do have the desire own a long bow as well. I don't have any reason for owning only recurves. I really don't know what the differences are as far as shooting and hunting with one or the other..Any insight would great.
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2019, 01:04:19 PM »
Longbow.   I prefer a lower wrist grip, like lower toned thump, prefer the draw and release cycle.
That said I own, hunt with and kill with both so it's something you'll have to work with and try out for yourself.

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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2019, 01:10:00 PM »
Longbow.   I prefer a lower wrist grip, like lower toned thump, prefer the draw and release cycle.
That said I own, hunt with and kill with both so it's something you'll have to work with and try out for yourself.

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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2019, 01:12:51 PM »
How is the Bear Montana for hunting and shooting?
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2019, 01:23:44 PM »
I started w longbows in the 70s than by 80s had only recurves. Few years back I switched again. I like longbows much better. They’re quieter. Don’t vibrate after the shot. I’d never go back I don’t think
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2019, 02:24:36 PM »
I have both recurve and longbows, but have developed a preference for the longbow.
They are , (to me), smoother, quieter, much easier to stringI have plans to sell off my recurves.

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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2019, 02:28:28 PM »
I like them both. Each has it's pros and cons but for the most part I think they are pretty even. I especially like my great northern ghost, which is kind of the best of both worlds. Longbow grip with recurve speed.

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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2019, 04:12:11 PM »
I've come to love R/D longbows as I find them to be the best of both worlds, especially for hunting. Quieter than a recurve, easy to push-pull string and in reality, comparable performance.
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2019, 04:13:56 PM »
Trenton, I currently shoot a great northern ghost..it is simple but beautiful piece of wood
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2019, 04:35:23 PM »
I advocate shooting with an arrow rest for all three under shooters.  The added forgiveness of tuning to an elevated rest helps to be able shoot with a more parallel arrow and the added height helps to keep the limbs more in time. Not sure if the shape of the limbs has as much to do with it as the shape of the sight widow, a raised arrow rest can cause issues with longbow sight windows. My three under friend now swears to the use of elevated arrows rests, no porpoising arrow flight.

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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2019, 04:40:34 PM »
I never shot with a rest on a trad bow. In fact I don't anyone around that does. Heck, not many around shoot traditional bows period!
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2019, 04:49:19 PM »
I have 1 recurve and 7 longbows. I’m partial to longbows myself. It’s what I prefer. No fear of limb twist with a longbow.
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2019, 05:18:56 PM »
How is the Bear Montana for hunting and shooting?

To your first question r/d longbow hands down. As to the why is simple. Recurves and longbows with no reflex deflex (rd) have advantages and disadvantages. For basic example recurves can generate a lot of speed (as can longbows) however can be prone to limb twist due to the thinness of their limbs.  Straight limb longbows might have lower speeds because the limb profile is less efficient and can have more hands shock.  However, longbows normally have thicker limbs making them less prone to limb twist and more forgiving of bad form. Byron Ferguson talks about this in one of his videos where he shows himself drawing off the line of the bow and explaining how the limbs pull the string back in line. Of course this is a basic basic overview and by no means comprehensive. With all that said the rd longbow as others have said is the best of both worlds and of the 7 bows I own 5 are rd longbows (my 8th bow is being finished as I post this, yes another rd).  It is important to note that bows vary on how much rd they have. For example the bear Montana you mention is pretty slight, which in my mind gets rid of some of the negatives of a straight limbed longbow but maybe not enough to increase your speed to that of a recurve of equal draw weight.

Now your to your second question.  The bear Montana is a lovely bow when set up well and will work fine for a hunter. A thing to consider will you be hunting out a tree stand? 64 inches is a long bow for a tree stand and you might find that length difficult.  Despite my short stature of 5'6" my primary hunter is a 66 inch rd longbow and I have zero problems out of a tree stand. You will need to look up minimum draw weight limits if you havent already for your state.  I have never owned a Montana but have shot them on a number of occasions and I am a fan of bears in general.  There customer service is pretty good too.  Now a new Montana runs about 399 but occasionally you can find one cheaper.  But if you are thinking an rd longbow and have 400 bucks, I think you should give mike with Maddog archery a call.  Most of the bows in his lineup are below that price range and it's a custom bow.  I have a 56 inch prairie predator that is screaming fast and super smooth that I adore.  He really makes a great bow and the great thing about a custom is just that. You can pick the woods and the glass color and all that jazz.  Additionally, my kids have a couple of his kids bows which are also great.  If you want to stick with production bows the Bodnik Slick Stick is the best 360 you will spend with a lifetime warranty.

Last note, I saw someone mention something about 3 under and using an elevated rest.  This note is just to say that I dont know if you are 3 under or split. I am three under for life and order my bows tillered for 3 under (not aware of factory bows tiller for 3 under).  I mention this because if you ever plan on going split finger in the future, I'd order a bow tillered for split which I have found can be tuned for 3 under easily.  However, if you order a bow with a 3 under (even tiller) you will find that the bow will not shoot well split, so keep this in mind.  Then again there are more than two options. Some people I think dan toelke for example shoots two under.

There are basic do's and dont's in the archery world but I find that archery is about what works. Different body types and arm lengths will find different forms more comfortable.  I personally find it painful to shoot split and shoot quite well off the shelf with 3 under. If you do want to go with an elevated rest as previous suggested and are three under I would give a turkey feather rest a good look.

Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2019, 05:29:39 PM by dahyer »
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2019, 05:48:13 PM »
man thank you for that in depth insight. That is something to chew on for a bit
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2019, 06:30:58 PM »
Hybrid longbow...

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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2019, 06:46:05 PM »
Two additional things to note. Terms like rd longbow and hybrid are from what I understand interchangeable. Also just personal preference here, but I like the way the shot feels and sounds better on a hybrid. Recurves tend to have more of a twang compared to a longbow thump.  That said I do love my flatline widowmaker recurve.
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2019, 07:53:59 PM »
I have noticed that longbows are much more quiet
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2019, 07:58:35 PM »
I have noticed that longbows are much more quiet
I would agree with this in general. Although one of the recurves I have is near silent.  Kinda depends on how well you have them set up and tuned.  I shoot home made wood arrows and I find that my bows are quieter in general from when I used to use carbons. Although I have no scientific way to prove this.
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2019, 08:49:52 PM »
I have both but prefer the longbow. I like the low grip and the smooth draw. I have never owned the Montana but have shot it a number of times. I think it is a good bow, but I definitely prefer my bows from NM and HHA. However, the Montana is less expensive.
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Re: Long bow or recurve?
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2019, 09:11:46 PM »
I love them both but I haven't shot a recurve in like 4 yrs I prefer my northern mist whisper

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