Author Topic: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !  (Read 4803 times)

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Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« on: December 14, 2019, 11:50:52 AM »
After a little more clean up getting ready to low brace this bow but I pin knocked this bow to gain maximum length so while tillering I tested push/pulling manualy & there is no way with this much reflex I have the steam to get any where near brace with it but after tiller it would be a non issue , so my dilema is do I cut my pins long enough to accept a stringer and lose length or any body got any ideas ?

« Last Edit: December 24, 2019, 06:28:36 PM by Forwardhandle »
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2019, 12:31:01 PM »
My opinion is..

    If it's too heavy to brace up now, you don't wanna brace it up yet.

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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2019, 12:35:49 PM »
I agree with Roy.
 How long is the bow?
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2019, 12:44:29 PM »
This one is 65" ntn but Im going to tiller to 30 1/2 " well Im going to guess Im only 50-55 lb but cant get the leverage to get to brace if I lighten it up to where I can brace it by hand now Im guaranteed to miss my wait but if I can get it braced & tillered to 24"  or so then it will be easy to get braced just intial brace is the issue ! My other option is to build a bracing board but kinda a lot of work to make right now !
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2019, 12:49:19 PM »
I don't buy that.

Tall long draw guy can't string a 55 pound bow?

I'm betting it's way more than 55 pounds.

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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2019, 01:00:04 PM »
You would lose that one Roy I took a bad fall about 2 weeks ago so I havent got my back ,back  up and running yet  I lock out when I try to brace it probably the easiest thing would be to lengthen my pins , next time I think I will title my thread , do you think my bow is to heavy to brace & might get some bracing options  :laughing:
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2019, 01:26:43 PM »
Ya didn't say ya was hurt.

Set it aside till ya mend up.

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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2019, 02:43:18 PM »
Again I agree with Roy. Who woulda thunk!  :o
If you're hurting nothing good will come from trying to brace the bow. One of you will break or get badly bent.   :nono: Go to the corner of shame and recover one of those oldies you put away and give it another try while you heal.
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2019, 03:56:43 PM »
Thanks fellas Im ok just still sore some times better to work threw it I got a double exspreso & got it to brace in fact tillered out to 27" one limb is still a bit stiff but might be the bottom not taking much set using the no set tiller method Im suprised usauly start geting some at 24"' Im babing it the rest of the way and holding off on the fades tell closer to full draw !

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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2019, 04:26:31 PM »
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

So what's the no set tiller method?

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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2019, 04:50:05 PM »
I think you could take a few scrapes off the mid limb area of the right limb but it's looking pretty good otherwise.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2019, 06:03:57 PM »
Yep pat I'm going to bring it around tomorrow that's the bottom limb ,Roy the no set method is nothing more then say you tiller to 20" at 36 lb and then you stretch the bow out to 25" at 45lb and come back to 20" and say the weight drop to 34lb then you would know your taking set & correct it, and so on and so forth at different lengths all the way out to full draw , I know I suck at explaining it there is a thread floating around the net on it but it's a good way to baby the bow to tiller !
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2019, 07:29:23 AM »
Just a follow up note now that some of the reflex has tillered out , its a lot easier to brace even with my sore back , but these reflexed Molly type bows are really stiff for the first brace with the short working limb 20 1/2" , I really hate using the word Molly because it implys limb leaver percentages & I dont use static tip because they do bend some , Im also paying attention to over all mass on this bow key to getting good performance , glad to see Roy learning new stuff  :laughing:
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2019, 07:58:40 AM »
Static tip. A lot of the last sentence here to  :bigsmyl: So if its bending it aint static.   :dunno:
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2019, 08:37:27 AM »
Mike a very comon term for wood bows like this that are termed by some as static tiped bows in my post I was not going to refrence this as a static tip as I plan to have them flex some thats why I just call them leaver bows so it doesn't infer confusion I guess it didnt work :goldtooth:
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2019, 02:42:12 PM »
We need a pot stirring emoji not that I would ever use  :bigsmyl: it.
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2019, 02:52:59 PM »
Roy would burn it out if we had it  :biglaugh:
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2019, 08:15:05 AM »
Well got this one to 31"@50lb sorry for the reflective light poor pics but hard to pull and take pics brought it in 5 lb heavy for side tiller clean up its holding 2" reflex after immediately un stringing it took some minor set about about 6" out of  the fades which is typical for 31" draw on my bows ,I was going to retreat the profile but its pretty smooth so Im leaving as is also should be able to get this one close to center shot ! I will get the wife to take a FD with out the reflective light when she gets home from work. The left limb is the top with positive tiller

« Last Edit: December 21, 2019, 08:27:19 AM by Forwardhandle »
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2019, 09:11:12 AM »
It really looks awesome :thumbsup: :bigsmyl: :archer2:
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Re: Any body ready to brace this question ?
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2019, 09:28:24 AM »
Thanks Maxi Im happy as heck holding 2" on this short of bow at my draw Im marrying the string for a couple hours and finessing the tiller yet !
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