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Re: Exsperment on a short leaver bow !
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2019, 11:42:06 PM »
Looks good but I think you could do a few scrapes mid limb on the top limb.
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Re: Exsperment on a short leaver bow !
« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2019, 05:06:05 AM »
Thanks fellas I appreciate it Im verry happy with the reflex this one is holding I had friends that told me why waste the wood trying to get a 65" to hold a lot of reflex on a strait long bow  at my draw & now 1 owes me a Red lobster dinner on a bet  :cheesy:  Pat If you look close on the mid/outers on the top limb the area was left taper flat so when I size the leavers & side tiller that area & losing the mass  I will get more flex ,its critical on this type bow in that area not to over do it as you will lose a lot of performance do to string angle the botom one is just about there but will change sesaw when I do the top hence being heavy on target draw weight ! I shoot it in and tiller it as I go maintainig the positive tiller the outer third does little work on this design and takes no set as in the unstrung profile doing it that way  Pat I think you will like the profile when I post when done ! I did another one of these a 68" in the same way at the (pic)at the  same point in tiller & its still holding tiller & really one of the best performing self bows I have made 3k arrows latter !

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Re: Exsperment on a short leaver bow !
« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2019, 06:32:04 AM »
Nice job, Ritchie.

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Re: Exsperment on a short leaver bow !
« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2019, 08:37:52 AM »
I does look good. explain the fat tip.
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Re: Exsperment on a short leaver bow !
« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2019, 09:11:24 AM »
I will try Mike but not reall good a exsplaining but with this type design in wood bows its claim to fame is lighter mass outers & superior string angle on the current one its only 20 1/2 working limb the rest being handle/fades & leavers complicated by my long draw with wood its easy to take set in the wrong areas , but by keeping the outers thick in taper I can side tiller the front veiew lowering mass in that area & get proper bend with out whip tillering as I narrow the leavers  & destroying the string angle keeping the outer mass as light as possible lighterr mass outers is expotential gains with wood bows vs glass
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Re: Exsperment on a short leaver bow !
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2019, 10:36:56 AM »
Mike, like with an I beam the thicker, narrower outer limbs are stronger but with less physical weight.
 Richie, I'd say it's time to shoot the heck out of it them look at it again.
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Re: Exsperment on a short leaver bow !
« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2019, 11:02:33 AM »
Yep Ibeam & Eiffel tower shape too but also the limb fade transition I need to carve the handle & make a string yet & get 300 arrows break in and recheck tiller but this hedge is stuburn bet it stays put also need to heat treat the leavers before shooting just bent with steam I think I will end up pretty close to center shot to ,I never cut shelfs on self bows just knuckle shooting !
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Re: Exsperment on a short leaver bow !
« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2019, 11:19:54 AM »
You did a great job on this one. :)

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Re: Exsperment on a short leaver bow !
« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2019, 05:13:00 PM »
Thanks Bue means a lot to me Bro !
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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2019, 09:37:03 PM »
Just as a side note this peace osage was really solid dense osage took a lot of scrapes &  exsersise to get any change ,I looked back threw my records & this one was one I got from Clint ,Scrub buster out of Ind a few years back !
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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2019, 10:08:21 PM »
Clint has some good ones
I have about 5 of them :thumbsup:
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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2019, 10:18:13 PM »
Yep I have a bunch here too I think both of those bows in this thread where made from his staves , some of the osage I cut here in Il is good dense wood nice red color to it too ,but some off the osage I have gotten out of Mo. isn't as dense , but even poor osage is good wood , we could start another thread on osage quality & seasoning  :cheesy:
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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #52 on: December 25, 2019, 03:07:39 PM »
I've been getting wood from Clint for years. Unfortunately he's getting out of wood cutting...at least that is what he says now.  :bigsmyl:
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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #53 on: December 30, 2019, 11:26:12 AM »
I have been laying out my handle with all the lateral adjustments Im still off a bit to the arrow side it looks like I should end up about 3/16 past center it will be interesting to see how it shoots like that , thats the farthest of center on a self bow that I have done ! Trying to get this one shooting new years day !

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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #54 on: December 30, 2019, 12:07:59 PM »
Pip Bickerstaffe of Bickerstaffe Bows, one of England’s top bowyers, makes mostly laminated ELB’s. He usually adjusts his bows so the string is a bit offset, he say they are more centershot. He is the author of several books.

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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #55 on: December 30, 2019, 12:15:38 PM »
Well the good thing about this off set its mostly off in the center the limbs and tips are fairly centered ,I have a friend that looks for staves off like that for the same purpose ,Im hoping it will help with arrow spine its tuff with long draws & wood arrows to get the spine right and still be 10 gpp !
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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2020, 11:04:07 AM »
Well I guess this is the first bow of the year for me sense I shot it for the firs time today ,I think this one is going to be my most peppy self bow to date feels like your shooting a glass bow , I started tapering the tips still going to eiffel tower & lighteen the tips but boosted them out for a bit more reflex ,Im ending up center shot on this one & I can  really tell the differense using diferent spined arrows !

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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2020, 11:20:38 AM »
Tell me you do not shoot that arrow................

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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2020, 11:37:13 AM »
I only want to shoot that arrow that way when I pay my taxes every year  :bigsmyl:
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Re: Exsperment on a short Osage leaver bow !
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2020, 12:47:43 PM »
I never maid it as a late season hunt or much work on this one, do to work but got a chance to do a bit more today & shoot about 80 arrows ,I got the tips almost to thin as the started to flex as in the first FD pic 1 & a trip to the caul & heat solved the problem FD pic 2 , sure like the way this one shoots so far mass is 20.21 Oz hoping to get closer to 19 Oz still a lot of sanding and clean up
Yet !

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