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Finally getting off my arse...
« on: March 31, 2020, 09:47:34 AM »
I spent 4 hours yesterday fitting this takedown sleeve to these yew billets. I haven't glued the sleeves yet but will start shaping the limbs.




One question I have...This is my first takedown sleeve installation so I need input of a glue that is acceptable for this application. Are their locally obtainable glues that are appropriate like 2ton epoxy or similar glues. I'd hate to have to buy a quart of glue for just this one project. I build mostly self bows so I basically don't have a reason to buy a larger quantity of glue.
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2020, 10:01:25 AM »
Don't know anything about the glue :dunno:, but good to see you building.
Keep us posted on your build :)
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2020, 10:33:29 AM »
Have not done what you are doing, but I think if you go to your local hardware and look at the JB Weld epoxy's, you will find something that will work for you. The Cold Weld is strong as hell, as is the Marine Weld.

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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2020, 11:30:59 AM »
MT-13 epoxy is what seems to be recommended according to both 3 Rivers and Bingham Projects. I used it for my T/D sleeve and it worked just fine. It dries white so if there’s any part not covered by a leather wrap it will show.

Here’s a link:  https://www.3riversarchery.com/bow-building-mt-13-takedown-bow-sleeve-glue.html

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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2020, 11:56:05 AM »
Others on PA also suggested MT13, Matt so I think I'll go with that. And, thanks for the link.
Mark, I will definitely  be posting my progress here.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2020, 12:10:11 PM »
X2 on the MT-13. I use it for my threaded takedown riser inserts and alignment pins.
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2020, 05:11:29 PM »
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2020, 12:30:38 PM »
I've reduced the limbs but realized after putting the bow back together that one limb is considerably stronger so I'll work on it more to get things evened out. Because of the shape of the bow near the handle you will see the limbs are deflexed slightly. My intentions are to reflex the limbs, at least the outer limb. One limb has a upward kick in the last inch. I'll just try to incorporate that in the added reflex or just live with it.
 Here are a few pics...






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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2020, 07:43:09 PM »
That Yew sure is purdy!
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2020, 08:30:22 PM »
Thats a beauty Pat! It's got a little "Snake" to it. Can't wait to see a full draw pic. :clapper:

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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2020, 09:52:29 AM »
Yew is a beautiful wood and a great bow wood but I'm used to working mostly with osage and it's like apples and oranges. Also I build so few bows these days it takes me a while to get back in the swing. I'm putting in a few hours each day, trying to take it slow and not screw up. These are not my billets and takedown sleeve. I'm building this for a friend so that's a bit more pressure.
Anyway, I'll keep posting my progress as I go along and want to thank everyone's support and encouragement.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2020, 11:46:55 PM »
I'm at a stopping point until I get the glue for the handle sleeves. It squeaked a little today while I was checking it on the tiller so I stopped until the sleeves are glued.
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2020, 04:26:01 PM »
If all goes well that will be a beauty  :thumbsup:
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2020, 06:35:17 PM »
Sort of off topic... but since you are leaving sapwood on yews, do you still have to take er down to a ring?

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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2020, 11:27:41 PM »
Yew is the exception to the rule. It is safe to have violated rings on the back of a yew selfbow. Even thickness is more important. I reduced the thickness of the sapwood from 3/8" to 1/4" and there are violations. I'll be adding snake skins with hide glue so that will add some protection.
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2020, 08:30:31 PM »
Any more progress ?? :notworthy: :dunno:
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2020, 11:50:10 PM »
I glued the sleeves on the billets and a little more tillering but not much more lately. Maybe I can get back to it in the next few days.
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2020, 11:04:35 AM »
Got a little more work done yesterday and this morning. I added a bit of reflex to the tips, yesterday...







This is the end result from yesterday. You can see the small wedge I added to the right side to bring the tip into alignment.

...and this morning. I used a wood clamp with "C" clamp and Stilson wrenches to help eliminate a bit of twist. We'll have to wait to see if this does the trick.







I oiled the wood well before heating it. I think this helps to hold the heat in and helps distribute the heat evenly.
I'll post pics of the results when it all cools down.


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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2020, 10:16:01 AM »
This is what she looks like today...
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Re: Finally getting off my arse...
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2020, 10:37:50 AM »
Nice.  I'm always amazed at what you self bow makers do with a stave.
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