Well, I'm doing the 12 to 18" most of the time, but I still have some work to do for 6 to 8" groups. Also, no interest in 40 yard range, but 30 is still tough enough. I essentially only hunt deer and am comfortable keeping to about 20 yard shots. The longer range interest is more for 3D than actual field application. 4dogs, are you proficient out to 40 yards? If so, how long did it take to get your shot grooved at that distance? I have discovered several flaws that really stand out at longer range. I have a poor release that I am diligently working on with a modicum of success, but sometimes it seems that, as I release, my bow arm swings slightly to the left (right handed shooter). Combine that with plucking the string, and who knows where it may hit? Actually, it is not quite as bad as it sounds, but it sure is giving me a lot to work on during lockdown. Due to health concerns, I am not getting out of quarantine yet, so there is still time to perfect it. I have found that it is easier to work on form with a lighter bow, so my 40# Hill Cheetah is getting lots of exercise. Perhaps it will become my 3D choice and maybe some use come hunting season.