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Re: Yukon Moose DIY
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2020, 07:37:09 AM »
September 9th – My partner and I both canoed over to the beaver hut. The morning was very frosty and the temperature was about 25oF. It started out nice, with just a bit of overcast. The clouds then rolled in and it proceeded to snow about an inch. I thought it was simply spectacular and was reveling in the beauty. I even acted like a little kid and was catching half-dollar sized snowflakes on my tongue.  The snow quit at about 11:00 AM and I canoed around to pickup my partner. Neither of us spotted any moose. We then headed for camp and the following story ensued:  “As I hurdled some low brush, and threw down my freshly opened drink, I excitedly declared to my hunting partner, “here comes my bull”! I had just finished a scrumptious packet of “just-add-water” oatmeal and had opened a can of soda to wash it down with, when I decided to walk over to the lake point and check for incoming moose. Much to my surprise, a 60” bull was sauntering in my direction. After dropping my soda, I grabbed my bow and gloves, pulled down my camouflaged facemask, and sprinted through the woods to where I thought the bull would enter. The bull was moving faster than I expected and my bull entry estimate was almost too good. I was pinned down, about 3 yards inside the tree line, and right smack dab in the middle of the trail. I was beginning to get a little nervous, that the bull wouldn’t stop or turn to offer a shot, when at 6 paces he turned to nibble a willow tree. That was the last bite he ever took. The shot was slightly quartering too, but at 6 paces I felt confident in placing the Rothhaar Snuffer tipped arrow tight behind the shoulder. Amazingly, I was very calm and controlled and anchored and released the arrow that went precisely where aimed. The shot took both lungs and maybe some liver. After the shot, the bull lunged forward and I had to jump back off the trail to avoid being trampled. A 1700-pound moose is REALLY big when you can reach out and touch them WITHOUT extending your arm. The bull then proceeded to run through camp and knock gloves and clothes off of our drying line. He didn’t go much further and unfortunately expired in the lake, about 30 yards from shore. The bull turned out to be a terrific animal at 60.5” and unofficially green scores at 201 6/8” P&Y. While watching my bull expire my partner decided to run to the tent and grab the video camera. When he glanced across the bay to check for moose, he was excited to see a giant bull, heading across the grass flat, following the same trail my bull just took. Apparently, this was the dominant bull of the area and he was escorting my bull out of his territory. He grabbed his bow and tried to intercept the 70+” bull as it entered the woods. Unfortunately, the ruckus my bull caused excited the dominant bull and caused him to advance too quickly for my partner to position himself well. At 15 yards the bull was straight on and didn’t offer an ethical shot. The bull either caught our scent or saw movement while my partner was trying to position for a shot. Either way, the bull spooked, turned and ran, and didn’t offer a shot. Much to my partner’s credit, he refrained from taking a questionable shot. We will be able to relive the moment often, as I captured it all on video. I’m not certain My partner is relishing this fact nearly as much as I. My partner was extremely disappointed and offered a few choice words of regret. We had quite an experience trying to get the bull into water shallow enough for us to butcher him in. We ended up tying a rope to his hind leg and the other end to the canoe. We then used the canoe to pull with. We were able to get the bull into about a foot and a half of water. My partner inadvertently went in over his waders and decided it would be more comfortable and easier to take off his pants and just work in his underwear. Quite a site! The rest of the afternoon was spent taking hero pictures and processing the bull. My partner was a tremendous help and we had the bull completely butchered in about 5 hours. No other moose saw in the evening. Dinner was awesome with some fresh pan seared inside tenderloins. Some Advil was required for aching backs.

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Re: Yukon Moose DIY
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2020, 07:39:15 AM »
September 10th – It was a virtual deluge all day. Two cows and a calf were the only moose spotted all day. I worked on my cape for a while. About 40oF and wet didn’t make for a particularly enjoyable day.

September 11th – Rained all morning and only one moose on the NW side of the lake. The afternoon actually had about 5 hours of sun and we saw 3 cows and 2 calves.

September 12th – Rained all day and only saw 3 cows all day. The weather has been terrible and it is beginning to wear on my partner.

September 13th – Rained all morning and saw 2 cows and a calf. It stopped raining at about 5:30 PM but then started up again at 7:30 PM. One cow and a calf spotted in the evening.

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Re: Yukon Moose DIY
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2020, 07:40:59 AM »
September 14th – Finally a sunny day. We pulled things out and began drying them off. No moose in the morning. Our pilot came in about 1:00 PM and picked up my moose meat and antlers. He returned and picked up some gear so he would only have to make one trip tomorrow. This worked out well for our pilot since he was flying in our vicinity to drop off some other hunters. Our pilot left at about 4:30 PM and then later in the evening the following scenario took place: “During the last day and last hour of our  hunt we heard some brush raking coming from across the bay. I responded with some brush raking to get the bull’s attention and later cow called to pull him across the water. My partner grunted to work him up some more. The 65” bull’s radar like hearing zeroed in on the cow calls and he began his stiff legged, antler-swaying walk toward the point. My partner quickly set up on the edge of the woods and waited for his approach. Again, the bull came directly at My partner and offered only a frontal shot at 30 yards. While the bull was walking, My partner tried to reposition and the bull caught movement or heard rustling. Given that the only predators in the area are bears and wolves, their tolerance for brush movement is minimal.  The bull turned and left without offering a shot. We did find out that you can not out paddle a moose. Again, all we have is some brush filled video of the bull showing a 10” drop tine coming off of his right palm.

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Re: Yukon Moose DIY
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2020, 07:43:27 AM »
September 15th – Another sunny day for breaking down camp and waiting for pickup. Our pilot flew in about 1:00 PM and we had an uneventful flight to Galena. I wrapped up my moose antlers, repacked some gear for mailing home, made a phone call to home, and took a long awaited shower.

September 16th – Arrived in Fairbanks at about 11:30 AM and was picked up by my friend Pete Buist. He was an excellent taxi service and drove us around to the fur tannery, post office, store for souvenirs, and to our hotel. He later returned and we went to the Turtle Club for a great prime rib dinner.

September 17th – Flight home was pretty uneventful and arrived home at about midnight.

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Re: Yukon Moose DIY
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2020, 08:05:03 AM »
Following is an old article I wrote. The hunt story is repeated from above.

Getting to the Point for Alaskan Moose

As I hurdled some low brush, and threw down my freshly opened drink, I excitedly declared to my hunting partner, “here comes my bull”! I had just finished a scrumptious packet of “just-add-water” oatmeal and had opened a can of soda to wash it down with, when I decided to walk over to the lake point and check for incoming moose. Much to my surprise, a 60” bull was sauntering in my direction.

This wasn’t the first bull I’ve seen coming to the point, in fact, it was the 12th bull over the span of two hunts and 17 days. Point hunting wasn’t something my partner had ever done before and I consistently had to remind him to be patient and assure him that the moose would come. My point hunting strategy was developed out of the limitations of traditional bowhunting. There are many well documented articles on floating, cruise calling, and stalking moose. All of these techniques can be extremely productive and are especially suited for the gun hunter. However, getting to within 20 yards can be difficult. With point hunting, the bulls come to you, and often, you have ample time to position yourself in front of them for an ambush.

During the early stages of the Alaskan moose rut, bulls are in a “wait and see” stage. The antlers are hard, mostly stripped of velvet, and the hormones are beginning to trickle in. The mating interest is surging, but the full-fledged froth has yet to kick-in. They appear to be conserving energy for the real action later in the season. The early rut stage will vary with geographic region but seems to run from September 5th – 15th in Interior Alaska.  During this time, the dominant bulls stake out their territory and monitor the action from several strategically selected vantage points. For several days at a time the bulls will lie in wait, just inside the timberline, and watch for cow activity and for any cruising young bulls. The bulls appear to rotate vantage points every few days. The vantage point is generally in a high traffic area that cows frequent. As the cows pass through, the bulls will scent check them for estrus status. Any interloping young bulls will be promptly escorted out of the area. As the season progresses the hormones surge and the bulls loose patience and begin their cruising.

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« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2020, 08:05:58 AM »
SELECTING A POINT
Selecting a point involves extensive research to define an area with a high moose density, natural bull-to-cow ratio, and remote access. The search should begin with a look at the harvest statistics from the Alaska Department of Fish and Game website http://www.state.ak.us/local/akpages/FISH.GAME/ and selecting the Game Management Unit (GMU) you wish to hunt. A call to the local area biologist will provide further information to help refine your search. Another good contact is the National Wildlife Refuge manager in the proximity of your hunt. Most refuges allow hunting in Alaska. It is your responsibility to assure that you are hunting on land open to the public. Native corporation lands and other private holdings are interspersed in many areas and there are no fences or signs indicating the boundaries. Once you have decided on the GMU, and general area of your hunt, do a topographical search electronically on TerraServer or TopoZone. You can also refer to DeLorme’s Alaska Atlas Gazetteer or other detailed map sources. Ideal locations consist of terrain and obstacles that will funnel the moose. Lake points, adjacent to a river corridor, are generally better because of the propensity of moose to feed on the aquatic vegetation at this time of year. This also takes advantage of bulls traveling the river corridor in search of receptive cows.  Bulls will often set up on a lake point to monitor local cows as they come out to feed on water plants. If there are several points on the lake, scout each point looking for panoramic views of up to several miles, moose beds, droppings, sheds, rubs, and moose.

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Re: Yukon Moose DIY
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2020, 08:06:52 AM »
HUNTING THE POINT
This is where patience pays. It doesn’t mean you cannot actively hunt, because you can substantially increase point visitation by raking brush, cow calling, bull grunting, and placing an attractant scent around the area on a saturated rag. “Love Thunder and Bull” by Wayne Kubat of Alaska Remote Guide Service is a good video resource demonstrating moose calling. The best binoculars and spotting scope you can afford will help you pick out the moose from the tree line shadows. The sooner you know a bull is coming, the better your odds of a successful ambush. Remember to be patient, the moose are in no hurry and they don’t have any appointments to keep. I’ve had bulls show up three days after I had first spotted them. Don’t forget the mid-day move! Both bulls I’ve killed, and many others spotted, occurred between 11:00 AM and 1:00 PM. After a long morning of lying in one place, the bulls often get up, stretch their legs, and grab a quick lunch. Tramping around in the woods does not seem to be productive and only serves to spread your scent. They don’t have those huge snozzes for good looks and the antlers serve as terrific satellite dishes for gathering sound. It is fairly difficult to ambush a bull while walking through cover. Bulls are stalkable, if you see them first.

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Re: Yukon Moose DIY
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2020, 08:09:40 AM »
I skipped the story of killing the bull and a couple other encounters as they are described above.

“Getting to the Point for Alaskan Moose” is not for everyone and involves many hours of waiting and glassing. However, the waiting can be punctuated with brief encounters that will leave you up close and personal, and out of breath from the adrenaline rush. This method has proven to be very effective for traditional bow hunters. I personally know of 8 bulls that have been taken with this method. I encountered 9 stalkable bulls, averaging over 60”, on two hunts. I believe this would be considered good in anyone’s book. So, next time you head afield for moose, consider “Getting to the Point for Alaskan Moose”.

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« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2020, 08:43:03 AM »
As you have probably noted in the last hunt journal...it rained A LOT.  That is not uncommon in Alaska. My buddy and I went on a Sitka blacktail hunt on Prince of Wales Island and if you didn't know it is one of the wettest places on earth and is a rain forest. However, when we were there it only rained twice...5 days the first time and 4 days the second time. Interior Alaska can also have some pretty severe weather. On my first trip to Alaska I hunted the Mulchatna caribou herd and some very bad weather rolled in with 60 - 70 mph winds with sheets of rain. Another party that was dropped on the lake where we were camping had a tent pole snap and the guys were laying in 2" of water when we checked on them. They were OK because they were wearing wool. If they had been in cotton clothing, they would be dead. As many have noted before, having the right good quality equipment can not only make your hunt more enjoyable it can also save your life.  Equally important to a successful hunt is your attitude and mental toughness.  Some folks really cannot deal with the isolation of a drop hunt and are very anxious about the inability to be removed from the situation quickly. On the drop hunts above, I did not have a satellite phone or any communication with the outside world. That level of isolation is tough on some. Fortunately, satellite phones are now pretty standard equipment and you can contact your air-taxi operator almost anytime. However, weather may still delay a pickup for days. I have also hunted Sitkinak and weather delays there are to be expected. Many believe Alaska is over run with game. In reality, Alaska has far less big game animal density than almost any lower 48 state.  Alaska is huge and much of it has extremely low game density. You really need to do your research to identify areas with good populations. A wise old Alaskan guide name Pete Buist once told me that the best hunting area is the most difficult to get to and the hardest to pronounce. I also have to give a plug for physical fitness. While a single location moose hunt on a lake isn't as demanding as a Western elk hunt, it is still physically tough. If you have ever walked a muskeg swamp you know what I mean. Also, a hind quarter can weigh in excess off 150#. The only way to move a moose on drop hunt is one piece at a time. A big strong guy like Kevin Dill can probably pack a moose out in 7 - 8 loads, but the loads are minimally 100#s each. The cape of one of my moose after fleshing and drying still came in at 110#s and as noted above the rack and skull plate weighed 72#s.  As a general rule the more physically fit you are the more you will enjoy the hunt and likely the more successful it will be.


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« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2020, 10:49:39 PM »
Thanks for sharing Terry! Let me know the next time you are over this way and maybe we can meet up for a meal or just "shoot the bull" for awhile!!
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« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2020, 09:57:12 AM »
Sounds good Mike. I'll let you know when I'm heading over to my cabin.

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« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2020, 01:34:46 PM »
Terry has just offered up some great hunting adventures along with a wealth of knowledge and experience. You guys should re-read what he posted and glean every bit of useful stuff possible. Having chased dangerous game with Terry I can assure you he's the guy you want between you and danger every time. Just be sure you can out-run him.....

And for those who are mindlessly bored out of their skulls......

http://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=103584.0

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« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2020, 03:17:06 PM »
Kevin, your 2016 hunt was the stuff of every hunters dream.  Nothing boring about the adventure you had.  You have been so generous in helping and providing priceless knowledge on DIY Alaska hunts. 

Folks if you want unsurpassed storytelling and valuable knowledge, just search Kevin’s posts here and on Bowsite. 


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« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2020, 11:54:15 PM »
Thanks Kevin.

Your recounting of that hunt is one of my all time favorite threads and part of the reason I’m going solo this year. 
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« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2020, 07:20:15 AM »
Thanks guys.

Walt, I haven't said as much but I'm really interested in your upcoming solo hunt. I know you have the skills and smarts absolutely, but it's still a supreme challenge to be doing the entirety of it by yourself. I'd love to be inside your head when the plane sails away and it's just you and the mountains. Good luck for sure!


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« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2020, 10:46:47 AM »
Walt, I didn't know you were going solo. I have no doubt you have the "right stuff" for it.  However, as Kevin mentions it is a mentally challenging endeavor. I only know of a handful of guys who have done it successfully. Even less that have done it more than once. Takes a guy with supreme confidence in their skills and abilities and a desire for adventure that most just can't appreciate. You guys are my hero.

I can't wait to follow along on your hunt, Kevin and Jeff's hunt, John and Joe's hunt, and Bryan's annual hunt.  Those four DIY moose hunts and the following reports and write-ups will be priceless to future hunters.  Believe it or not, those guys alone have over 200 years of hunting experience and all of them are at the very top of the game. Going to be an epic moose year!

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« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2020, 06:21:50 PM »
Kevin, Terry,

I do not foresee second thoughts of trepidation on this solo hunt, probably not intelligent enough to know when I should have them.

First, A little perspective.  A typical moose hunt for most is to fly to the Alaskan interior in one or two days, be dropped into some remote place or on a river, hunt for ten-twelve days , then be picked up, and be back into the comforts of or home fourteen-sixteen days later.  When my grandfather went to Alaska during the gold rush in 1899, he was gone for two years prospecting throughout the Alaskan interior.  Being in the Alaska wilderness by myself for a couple of weeks pales in comparison. 

How I started big game hunting, falls under the heading of probably not intelligent enough to know when I should have second thoughts or trepidation's of hunting solo.  Not recommended for the masses.  At the age of 26, I decided I wanted to go mule deer hunting, drove to the edge of the  Frank Church Wilderness in Idaho two hours before hunting light.  Put four MRE’s, a mini mag flashlight, and Army surplus poncho into the pockets of my BDU pants and coat, verified the Buck 110 was on my belt, shouldered the rifle, and started the five mile cross country hike for a four day hunt.  Never took much more equipment then that when big game hunting for the next four or five years.  A lot of things we take into the woods make it more comfortable and easier, but really are not essential for a successful hunt…..IF you have the prerequisite skills, mindset, and confidence.

Some insight.  My purpose is not to try and dominate moose or the wilderness, rather it is, for a short time, to immerse myself in the entire experience.  Personally, it is much easier to immerse myself when alone.  Most people prefer to share the experience with somebody, there is nothing wrong with that.  Having always been a loner, especially when it comes to hunting, I prefer doing it solo.  While growing up participating in team sports were the norm for me, however I excelled at Wrestling, an individual sport.  Traditional Bowhunting, like wrestling, is up close and personal, everything is on me, nobody else, no excuses, just me and the critter.  That is partly why I bowhunt, with my weapon of choice being a selfbow.  It is not that I do not enjoy other people, I do.  Ask anybody who has seen/met at a PBS or TBM convention.  Just not so much when I am hunting.  Many do not understand this, they might consider it wrong, or even selfish.  Maybe this solo hunt is being selfish.  Should I again be taking someone younger, mentoring them, passing on some of the woodsmanship and knowledge that others willingly shared with me?  Kevin and Bryan have unselfishly taken newbies Alaska moose hunting the over past few years, sharing their camps, woodmanship, moose hunting skills, and comradery.  I find that admirable.

My plan in 2012 was to go solo but my friend and hunting partner Dave really wanted to go.  In 2016 the plan was to go solo but it ended up as a chance to expose Hunter to the Alaskan bush and moose hunting.  In 2018 the plan was to go solo, but my friend and hunting partner Lenny wanted to go.  Dave and Lenny both offered to go on this hunt. Hunter wants to go but is in his final year of veterinary school and cannot miss classes.  All three are really good hunting partners and normally welcome on any hunt.  There have been over three dozen requests in the last year and a half from others wanting to join me on this hunt.  A lot of people want to hunt Alaskan moose, but understandably, prefer to go with somebody who has done it before.  Most will never hunt Alaskan moose.  Guess I am being selfish this time.

Another side to the equation, by no means am I a good hunting companion.  Most friends or relatives brave enough (or foolish enough) to spend seven to ten days in the back country with me will tell you around the third day my temperament gets moody, conversations get shorter, my time spent in camp gets less each day.  Unless they know me well, they frequently think they may have done something wrong, offended me somehow; most often they have not.  Those who know me, think silently it is Walt being Walt.  Honestly, by the end of the trip, if I were them, I would have whacked me up the side of the head with a log for being an unbearable jerk. 

Frequently my wife reminds me the rest of the world does not think like me, reminding me my mind works differently from most others.  When told, from my perspective it does not mean my mind is good or bad, right or wrong, it is simply different, she gives me THAT LOOK which silently conveys the message You Are an Idiot, while quickly verifying my life insurance is paid up.   At times, some of my hunting partners give me that same look. 

Sometimes getting THAT LOOK is all that is needed to inspire the next Alaskan moose hunt.
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« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2020, 09:04:05 PM »
Walt, you will have a successful hunt...

I hope we can share a camp someday, perhaps a two or three day outing. :)

You have shared your knowledge and mentored in many other ways than taking a newbie! 

I'll be killing something this fall with some retro 2219's that a friend gave me.

Thanks and take good notes. I really enjoy Kevin's introspective writing style during the hunt and anxiously await the recount of your adventure.

Be safe Walt!

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« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2020, 10:08:50 PM »
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Thanks very much for sharing your adventures!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Yukon Moose DIY
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2020, 10:09:46 PM »
Terry,

I to look forward to sharing a camp with you someday.
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