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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2021, 11:38:44 AM »
Man, l would love to see that in a riser.
Speaking of boiling wood, I have some cool riser blanks that I glued up that would require the back lams to curve up the ramps like on a Black Widow. Can bamboo be boiled and formed to the curve or would dry heat work better?
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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2021, 02:02:34 PM »
Thin out the boo in the ramp area as much as possible
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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2021, 07:03:24 PM »
I do thin it quite a bit. It will be about 1/8” thick in the center. The problem is that there’s a fairly tight radius to the ramps and I would like to pre form the bamboo so it won’t break when I clamp it. Here’s a picture of the risers.

If I can get it to work, I’ll build on one of these.
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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2021, 07:34:02 AM »
Very nice, David.

Got the riser cleaned up and glued it and the tip overlays on the bow.

My biggest concern was getting the center strip of the riser centered with the boo backing, never did a 3 section riser before.

It was sort of a guessing thing as the Osage belly was not exactly the same width on each side sticking out past the boo backing, was about 1/8th difference. Time will tell, heck I'm hoping for Kenny's name anyways:)

I precut the end of the riser before glue up to make it easier to finish it after glue up. I always need to be careful shaping removing wood off the end of the riser without removing wood from the belly lam.

Did I mention that patience is not one of my best traits?:)

Riser glued on with unibond800 and tips glued on with EA40.

I first wrap the tips with plastic wrap, then secure with heavy gum bands.








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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2021, 09:22:14 AM »
That's a purdy riser roy :thumbsup:
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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2021, 09:25:31 AM »
Thanks Mark, I like it too..

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« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2021, 11:38:41 AM »
Ok, the wood is Brazilian Cherry.

AKA Jatoba.

https://www.wood-database.com/jatoba/

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Common Name(s): Jatoba, Brazilian Cherry

Scientific Name: Hymenaea courbaril

Distribution: Central America, southern Mexico, northern South America, and the West Indies

Tree Size: 100-130 ft (30-40 m) tall, 2-4 ft (.6-1.2 m) trunk diameter

Average Dried Weight: 57 lbs/ft3 (910 kg/m3)

Specific Gravity (Basic, 12% MC): .77, .91

Janka Hardness: 2,690 lbf (11,950 N)

Modulus of Rupture: 22,510 lbf/in2 (155.2 MPa)

Elastic Modulus: 2,745,000 lbf/in2 (18.93 GPa)

Crushing Strength: 11,780 lbf/in2 (81.2 MPa)

Shrinkage: Radial: 4.2%, Tangential: 8.0%, Volumetric: 12.1%, T/R Ratio: 1.9

Are yah Sure..???   I got some Jatoba and it is the heaviest, hardest wood that I ever worked with...  You said that it was not super heavy...  57lbs. to me is pretty damn heavy... Feels like I am holding a chunk of concrete...

 Just checking........

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« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2021, 11:44:55 AM »
This piece was only 13 x 2 x 2.

May have weighed 3 pounds.

Too late now, LOL.

Guy who gave it too me said it was Jatoba.

Ya ever have any IPE wood, Rich?

Now that wood weighs as much as concrete...

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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2021, 11:47:44 AM »
It sure looks like jatoba to me. Easy for me to compare, I’m surrounded by it. The living room floor. 😁
It makes a good solid riser
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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2021, 12:01:40 PM »
Can bamboo be boiled and formed to the curve or would dry heat work better?

No personal experience with bamboo, but the guys that form it for recurve tips and the like seem to always use dry heat. They also use a form where the bamboo is pushed down into the form rather than bent around the outside so that the outer fibres are untouched.


57lbs. to me is pretty damn heavy...

That isn't much heavier than the hard maple I have used. It is usually around 54lb/cu.ft.


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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2021, 12:49:57 PM »
I think I’m going to try both ways to bend my bamboo. I tried once with the heat gun and I wasn’t happy with the results. Could be I did something wrong. I need to get it to bend backwards as the risers I want to use are forward style.
I’m going to puta form together and I’ll post the results.
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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2021, 12:55:42 PM »
Loblolly Pine.
this crotch will make some nice lams




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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2021, 01:01:01 PM »
This piece was only 13 x 2 x 2.

May have weighed 3 pounds.

Too late now, LOL.

Guy who gave it too me said it was Jatoba.

Ya ever have any IPE wood, Rich?

Now that wood weighs as much as concrete...

  Ok, Roy...  Just checking...  :thumbsup: Didn't want you passing off any stained pine as Jatoba...   :laughing:

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« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2021, 01:09:35 PM »
It sure looks like jatoba to me. Easy for me to compare, I’m surrounded by it. The living room floor. 😁
It makes a good solid riser
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Yes, it does...  As partial as I am to the looks of Sheoak and the pride in milling it myself...  I would like to make a nice bow with an over-sized riser out of Jatoba for myself to shoot target and 3-D... You can't beat the stuff... It is inexpensive, heavy and I believe non-oily...  But it is tuff on tools...

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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2021, 01:14:40 PM »





57lbs. to me is pretty damn heavy...

That isn't much heavier than the hard maple I have used. It is usually around 54lb/cu.ft.


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You gots yo'self some damn heavy maple then...  Last I looked maple was 44 lb. cu. ft....  And I can feel a drastic difference when I lift the two different woods...

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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2021, 01:24:30 PM »
Lookin at some different domestic veneer material ...


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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2021, 01:25:39 PM »
And some overlays , if I can find it ...


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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2021, 02:35:42 PM »
Well dang, Kenny.

Ya finally got a shot at a buck:)

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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2021, 03:43:46 PM »
Loblolly Pine.
this crotch will make some nice lams

Lams for a glass bow?

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Re: 2021 Bow Swap Progress Thread
« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2021, 03:53:59 PM »
I first wrap the tips with plastic wrap, then secure with heavy gum bands.

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