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Author Topic: Iowa Non Resident Hunting  (Read 2748 times)

Offline buckeyebowhunter

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Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« on: February 21, 2021, 12:25:41 PM »
Looking to do something special for my Dad and have been planning a out of state deer hunt. I am obviously planning for a couple or 3 years down the road but figured I may as well start saving up and go for a premium tag in Iowa. Planning on going the DIY route and hunting public land.

Basically looking to get some tips from guys that maybe have experience doing something similar or even tips from residents that may be able to point me in the right direction as far as a decent zone with some fair public ground.

From what I understand zones 5 and 6 are premiere but could take 4 or 5 years to draw. I'd like to plan for something 2 or 3 years down the road.

Thanks in advance  :thumbsup:

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2021, 03:49:35 PM »
I live here in Monroe county Iowa. There herd here in zone 5 where my farms has been decimated by EHD the last two years but if you ask the DNR, the deer herd is doing great. Its hard to sell license if the deer numbers are down in which they are in my area. I hunt over 2400 thousand acres between 3 farms and I went from a average of 1200 pictures a month to 70 pictures a month, (if I was lucky), on any one of my trail cameras. The deer hunting is still good but not like it was just 3 years ago. I am in no way trying to discourage you in your quest for a great deer hunting experience with your father but a ton of people come here every year expecting a Boone & Crockett behind every tree but I can assure you that's not that case here, especially on public land. If you hunt within 40-45 miles of Des Moines or Cedar Rapids on public land, expect to see other people. Another issue with hunting public land here is that the bordering properties of public land rarely practice QDM. Also the country around me is extremely hilly with deep ravines  that one can slide right into.
  With that all out of the way, here is what I suggest. Get away from the populated cities, go south central. Southern Monroe County or Lucas County. I suggest looking up Stephens State Forest if you decide to go public. It covers three counties. You're allowed to camp there by permit I believe but don't quote me on that because it could be free. Four wheel drive is mandatory and a ATV will save you getting a deer out. Definitely bring a tow chain or strap. You will surely need all of it on Level B roads. There are big bucks taken every year in Stephens State Forest with hardly, if any bow hunting pressure. I know this because I literally live just around the corner from it. as for deer stands, typical, nothing that will damage trees and if you leave them over night make sure they are locked up because if they get stolen, the DNR Officer will not come out. Not saying you do but if you get caught trespassing it carries a healthy fine so know your location at all times. That leads me into this, there's a good chance that your cell phones will not work here unless you are on a high hill. US cellular works really well here and if you have Verizon forget about it. You may as well bring a carrier pigeon.
  Like I said before, I am not trying to discourage you but just let you know of the reality of hunting here. I seen non-resident hunters every year and some are successful but there's a lot of them that I end up pulling out with a tractor or listen to them complain about not seeing huge bucks and swear off Iowa. Its hunting. And if you should get out this way in south central Iowa, look me up. I will gladly show you around Stephens State Forest.
 
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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2021, 05:54:21 PM »
Wow thanks for the extensive reply John. I understand fully what you're saying and by no means expect any gimmes. That's not my intention for trying to set this up. And we could just as easily kill a nice buck here without spending that kind of money.

Our intentions were directed more towards the experience of it rather than the success. Don't get me wrong I would hope to see deer and possibly tag out but I know how hunting goes.

My dad and I have talked about doing an out of state hunt for a long time, and for the longest time were set on an elk trip. However he's not a spring chicken and not I'm not in fantastic shape like I once was either. Plus we both like hunting deer best anyways or at least as far as we know  :thumbsup:

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2021, 06:06:18 PM »
Like I said, if you get a chance, look me up if you should get out this way. I will be more than happy to show you around and at the very least point you in the right direction my friend. And sorry if I came off a little brash in my previous posting. I just seen people come here every year expecting to have a huge non-typical dropped into the bed of their truck. Stephens holds a lot of big bucks and its far enough out of the way to where you wont run into other but yet see deer. Its several miles from the closest paved road. I believe 6 or 7 miles. I myself have taken several nice deer from Stephens. And if you do get zone 5, I will be close by if you get yourself in a jam. I wish I had a dime for every out of state vehicle I pulled out off a Level B road. Best of luck and dont forget to look me up if you get out here. I will be glad to help.
Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me some venison;
Genesis 27:3

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2021, 06:31:05 PM »
John, didn't seem Brash at all. I get it. I see it go on here every fall. Tons of public land around me here, but Ohio is way too liberal with their tags for non res. Not knocking non residents but that's just how it is. Along with the liberal tags and low prices you get a lot of yay hoos beating up the public. So I get it.

One of the reasons I wouldn't mind paying for the Iowa tag, I understand they're not cheap for a reason and hoping to have a good time  :thumbsup:

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2021, 06:32:24 PM »
And also thanks John. And if we end up deciding on zone 5 I would love to meet up and check out the state ground you refer to. Really appreciate it!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2021, 07:42:41 PM »
Me and my buddy hwave been putting in for 4 years and plan on hunting next year God willing. We are planning on doing public as well.
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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2021, 07:49:41 PM »
Craig you will have to let us know how that goes! What Zone are you planning to try to draw for?

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2021, 07:54:20 AM »
Zwickey-Fever......that was a great response to a hunter looking for an assessment of our great state.  There are a lot of good people on this site!

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2021, 09:07:59 PM »
We were thinking 5 or 6. We have heard about the EHD. Still stoked!
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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2021, 09:43:58 PM »
I bet! Would love to hear about how your guys' hunts go next fall.  :shaka:

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2021, 04:39:54 PM »
As a former SE Iowan, I have a few tidbits for you.  The first is 98% of Iowa is privately owned.  So not a ton of public hunting opportunities.  As stated Stephen’s Forest is probably your best bet and there are big deer there.  Just have to work for it as it is very hilly there.....not typical of what most think of Iowa.  When I lived there the pressure during the rut was heavy for Iowa but light compared to what other states call busy. 

Also, every 2-3 years there is a disease that decimated the herds in random locations so be aware you may wait a few years then have a not so great experience with deer numbers.

There are a lot of deer in Iowa.  Just big sections locked up privately that will leave you wanting when driving around.  And more leased up every year it seemed.

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2021, 10:11:49 AM »
Appreciate the incite, this is a great site with greater ppl  :thumbsup:

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2021, 10:44:00 AM »
Really liking the response and dialogue.  ZF-would expect no less from a former PA guy.
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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2021, 10:39:25 AM »
Hello,

As Z-F stated, there is not a mature buck behind every tree (unlike what I read about in OH!  :biglaugh:) as most residents of a publicized deer state know; it is not like what you read about or see on TV.  In general though, the deer hunting and buck quality is very good. 

Deer hunting quality is also in the eye of the beholder.  The best state I ever hunted in for opportunities at bucks 5.5-years-old or older provided 6-10 observations of deer per day (on stand all day) with 2-3 buck sightings per day on average, not what most hunters would consider "good" deer hunting.  However, on average, one out of 10 buck sightings was a buck at least 5.5-years-old, and this was on public land.  Add to that the fact that in 9 seasons of hunting, I only observed other hunters on two occasions (4 hunters total); it was great deer hunting in my book.  For those interested, most mature buck sightings were from 1000-1400 hours in November.

It will take 5 years to draw a bow tag in Zone 5 unless you are really lucky (only 4 NR bowhunters drew tags with 3 preference points in 2020 in Zone 5).  Currently, 4 preference points guarantees you a license in Zone 5.  In Zone 6, you have about a 50:50 chance of drawing with 3 preference points (4 preference points guarantees a license).  In Zone 9 (northeast IA), you have a 50:50 chance of drawing with 2 preference points and 3 preference points guarantees you a tag. 

Zone 8 is an overlooked area in IA (east-central) but it has less public land (even for IA which ranks 48 or 49 out of 50 for the amount of public hunting ground).  There are very good areas in Zone 7, however it also has a lower amount of public land.  Zone 4 also has very good areas but, again, public hunting areas can be hard to come by in some counties. 

Zone 3 used to have very good public hunting and bucks, however, the hemorrhagic disease (HD/EHD) outbreak of 2012 really hit this area hard (along with most of southern Iowa) and coupled with flooding of the Missouri River valley in subsequent years; it has not fully recovered to date.

Very good to great deer hunting and bucks can be found in every zone in Iowa; however, good deer habitat is quite limited in some of the zones which in turn limits deer densities and the pressure on the public hunting areas with "deer habitat".

The EHD outbreak was pretty localized in 2019 but hit some areas hard.  In Monroe County, the Georgetown area (NW 1/4 of county) was hit very hard, but even within that quarter, there were areas that did not experience a lot of activity (there was also a bit of activity in the SE quarter of Monroe Co.).  In Marion County, the Red Rock reservoir area was hit moderately hard.  Warren County was hit very hard as was the NE quarter of Clarke County (southern Clarke was moderate).  In Lucas County; the NE, NW, and SW quarters experienced moderate EHD outbreaks (the NW quarter was hit the worse).  Eastern Decatur County also had moderate EHD activity.  All of these are Zone 5 counties.

Depending on future EHD activity, all of these areas should be fully recovered in deer numbers by 2022 (some areas may take longer to recover their buck age structure depending on how that was impacted at the local level).

Private land:  While some nonresident hunters lease land, it is not real prevalent in IA at this time.  There are still Iowans that will allow hunters free access to hunt, especially during the bow season.  It may take some persistence, but permission to bowhunt is still available for the asking (and sometimes on great properties) in rural Iowa.  The permission is more easily gained the further you are from the areas depicted on the television shows (I am assuming they are still televised, my TV has been unhooked since 2009) and possibly the online offerings.

I recommend that nonresidents, if they are able, spend some time in Iowa one or two springs before they expect to draw a license.  Turkey season is a good time to check out public hunting areas and it is also a good time to knock on doors and ask for permission to bowhunt as most are not thinking about deer at that time of year (early spring through early summer is a great time to ask).  Also, a "No." for deer hunting but a "Yes." for turkey hunting (or shed hunting) may turn into permission for bowhunting after the landowner is more "comfortable" with you. 

I would not worry about QDM practices of properties (you are unlikely to gain permission on those properties anyway); my favorite properties are farms with good deer cover that are primarily shotgun hunted by hunters that just "shoot deer" and are out there for the meat and fun.  It is not overly difficult for a buck to reach maturity on properties (or areas) that are primarily hunted only 5-10 days per year (others may disagree).  Many longtime southern Iowa residents (which I am not) agree that large, mature bucks were more often observed in the '80s (even though there were a lot fewer deer) than they are now.  Why this may be the case is a topic for another discussion.

If it matters to you, chronic wasting disease is known to be in Wayne, Decatur, and Appanoose counties in Zone 5, most counties in Zone 9, and 2 counties in Zone 8.  This is just an FYI, it is your decision if that matters to you or not.

One last comment, DO NOT drive on B-Level roads when they are wet!!

I apologize for the length of this post.  Good luck with your future hunt, wherever it may be!

Take Care,

Tom

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2021, 11:53:43 AM »
Tom,  no apology required. This is exactly the kind of information I was looking for and my main reason for starting this post. There is information out there on hunting in Iowa but you don't know whether or not to believe or trust half of it. That's why I rely on this site so, many people with honest opinions willing to share. I really appreciate you taking the time to post  :thumbsup:

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Re: Iowa Non Resident Hunting
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2021, 03:40:39 PM »
I'll send you a PM with some other information that you might find interesting.

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