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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2021, 05:57:06 PM »
That thing looks vicious.  Can't wait to see it put an arrow through your shop!

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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2021, 06:02:25 PM »
LOL

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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2021, 07:09:06 PM »
I would cut off tips a bit.

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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #63 on: April 17, 2021, 07:55:29 PM »
Holy Curvaitious...  You trying to complete with them extreme hook guys?? 

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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #64 on: April 17, 2021, 08:18:29 PM »
Holy Curvaitious...  You trying to complete with them extreme hook guys??

Yep, he's slipped across the Border.   :)
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #65 on: April 17, 2021, 08:57:03 PM »
LOL, just wanted to see if I could make one work.  I'm gonna put the overlays on and then shoot it and test it.

If it aint 10 fps faster than my D/Rs , gonna burn the form ... :laughing:
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #66 on: April 17, 2021, 09:08:35 PM »
You got to have some you finish recurve blanks.

Someone on FaceB asked where to get T/D R/D plans, I looked on your website and told them Binghams.
But you do have  a R/D T/D bow, So your missing sales :banghead: ;)
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #67 on: April 17, 2021, 09:14:52 PM »
Third plan down man!

https://www.kennysarchery.com/longbow-form

Not gonna touch recurve blank bows, too easy to get limb twist .  It can happen to guys who build the entire bow , so anybody just  starting will be better off with a D/R longbow.  That's my story and I'm stickin to it.
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2021, 09:34:01 PM »
I would keep the tip wedge with that much hook.
Instead of burning that form send it here.
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2021, 10:27:34 PM »
Got it Kenny :thumbsup:
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #70 on: April 18, 2021, 11:30:30 AM »
Like Bue says, it might be better shorter.  After #1 at 60" blew up, I built #2 at 58" , and it worked ok but didn't make the chrono smoke or anything.  So for #3 I still used the superlam to get the tip wedge but added a stabilcore under glass both sides. It is quite torsionaly stiff so might be able to do without the tip wedge.

Not sure about more taper, but that might help too.

If I can pull it , it will prob end up my fishin bow. Prob end up 50+ .

 A bit of camo paint and good to go...
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #71 on: April 18, 2021, 12:32:09 PM »
  Here's my two cents...  Looks like you can move your knocks down 1 1/2" to 2"...  It's not gonna hardly change your string angle and it may not even change your draw weight...  Matter of fact it may help to open up them hooks a little because you are changing the angle from which it pulls on the hooks...

   I would map your limb as now at 28" with a tiller stick...  Put a piece of tape about 6" in from your fade as a reference point and mark that point on your map to make sure the limb is in the exact same position when you map it again...   Then map your limb at 28" and 2" shorter limb... Map your string also to see what it is doing...  Post your map...  I would be interested to see what happens...

  I believe that extra 2" out there right now is absolutely doing nothing but adding weight and slowing things down...
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #72 on: April 18, 2021, 12:49:01 PM »
I’m with ya Rich but she’s 55@28 now and that will add weight. I wanna be able to shoot her. This may be a 56” form...
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #73 on: April 18, 2021, 01:42:01 PM »
Make it 45 pound, then ya might be able to shoot it.

Just sayen ole timer.

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« Reply #74 on: April 18, 2021, 01:44:00 PM »
  You might be surprised to find out that she only gains a pound or two or be the same weight or possibly even less if them hooks open up...

  Forget about the standard rule of gaining 5lb. for every inch you take off...  Look at your geometry at 28" draw...  That string is almost touching the limbs still...  If you take off two inches it looks like you are only gonna be moving that string in a 1/4" from where it is now at 28"...  Plus them hooks could possibly open up which could put you back to where you started with string angle...  Plus you'll be thinning up those tip areas as you move in more...

   Or I could be totally wrong...  Just started messing with recurves a year or two ago...  But I got a good knack for seeing things and how they work...

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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #75 on: April 18, 2021, 01:51:35 PM »
Shredd in my experience your spot on about it not gaining poundage if it’s shortened. Usually if the tips aren’t working there’s not much gain if you cut it down a inch or two

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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #76 on: April 18, 2021, 02:29:48 PM »
Cool, I'm gonna finish it at 60" and test shoot it, then pike it...
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #77 on: April 18, 2021, 05:34:35 PM »
As compared to a longbow you weight gain by piking won't be as much. Have ever piked a curve but still thinking you will gain weight.
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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #78 on: April 18, 2021, 06:16:31 PM »
If you gain weight could you sand the glass on the back and belly to reduce weight?

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Re: Hopeless
« Reply #79 on: April 18, 2021, 06:19:20 PM »
I am not sure and may be I am all wrong, but what if we think the opposite that by cutting off the tips a bit we will loose weight instead of gaining. Then you will not use so much force to straighten out the tips. I don’t really know. :dunno:

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