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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #760 on: June 11, 2022, 12:35:36 PM »
Great bow Travis! You have an eye for it!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #761 on: June 12, 2022, 12:46:05 AM »
Thanks guys, now if I could just shoot them well. I’ve been struggling with a flinch lately. I’m slowly fighting thru it but it’s a slow go.

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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #762 on: June 12, 2022, 05:07:55 AM »
Clearcoat on my ILF is done.

Thats pretty much, what the serial model will look Like.


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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #763 on: June 12, 2022, 09:39:02 AM »
Excellent,   B !!!    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #764 on: June 12, 2022, 10:43:09 AM »
Clearcoat on my ILF is done.

Very nice. Where did you get your ILF hardware and how long is the riser?


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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #765 on: June 12, 2022, 11:05:02 AM »
The Hardware ist CNCed by my specifications.

Riser lenght ist 19".

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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #766 on: June 12, 2022, 04:59:27 PM »
Seen this on FB love that hardware.
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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #767 on: June 12, 2022, 09:50:58 PM »
  Nice job, brother...

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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #768 on: June 13, 2022, 03:10:58 PM »
That is a pretty unique lateral adjustment set up that doesn't require embedding the standard plates into phenolic or g-10 so you can tap the adjustment screws. Running set screws in wood is a joke.

 What was the cost of the hardware? and would you sell them?   That would take a lot of fight out of the millwork and riser lay up too. I dont build many ILF risers, but that is a slick set up.    Kirk
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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #769 on: June 13, 2022, 07:45:49 PM »
Running set screws in wood is a joke.

Can you not use threaded inserts for the side to side adjustment instead of tapping the wood directly? I agree that seems like a poor way to go.


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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #770 on: June 14, 2022, 02:11:24 AM »
The price for the Prototypes is pretty high.
Was like 60 a pair.
I need to tune the price down, once i can make NUMBERS.
Also, i would Like to have a Brass Version of them.
Once i have them Made for a reasonable price, i May consuder selling IT.


The Problems with threaded Inserts in wood are of several kind.
You leave very less Material around them unless you don't use very tiny screws.
They apply spread Force to the Wood and May eventually make the riser crack.
If they fail, it's hard to repair.

Therefore some manufacturers use a Big full Metal ILF component including also the Thread for the limbbolt.
(Antur,DK-Bow,Spiderbow).
But i don't Like the Look and the facto, that this plates are atteched to the Riser with pretty small screws.

So i made These.
Little downside is Just the fact, that the milling in the Riser has to be ABSOLUTELY DEAD ACURATE.

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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #771 on: June 14, 2022, 09:31:21 AM »
My first few prototype ILF risers were interesting to say the least. But I saved a lot of heartache by using off fall or scraps to do the first few mill work sessions.

Like yours, the first couple I did I put into full depth pockets which matched the shape of the tapered limb butts of a standard ILF limb. I use a bit larger set screw with corse thread first, and figured out it doesn’t take much over tightening of those screws to crack the fins covering up the sides of the limbs. Those 1/8” wood sides are not very durable.

Btw… you did a nice job milling those pockets….pain in the arse they are…

 I messed with that a bit, and finally decided I didn’t really need to put these into pockets at all, and milling those taper shaped pockets is not a walk in the park. So I chose to use a 1/2” G-10 limb pad cap and just mill a slot for the ILF plate, leave the sides open, and give myself something solid to tap into for the set screws. This allowed me to use smaller diameter machine screws with a bit more length. The results were excellent.  The G-10 mills nicely with high speed router bits and is much stronger than wood.

Having decided to eliminate the pockets, I could keep my own ILF limbs square at the butt rather than taper them. The looked better that way to me. They would still except a std ILF limb, but most of the guys I built these for preferred the higher performance my SS RC limbs had than  the ones on the market anyway.

Here are a couple I built about 5 years ago if you want a peek at my design. On one of these I have it set up with a full 1/2”  past center cut shelf and hardware for a plunger. I used a 1/2” G-10 I beam to pull that off.  Kirk

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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #772 on: June 14, 2022, 11:30:50 AM »
  Looky what came in the mail yesterday...  I don't hardly have a use for it but when I need it I'll have it... Now I just need to start building bows again...  Probably will happen in the fall...  Everything keeps getting in the way...  Been super busy with work now...  Gotta get it while you can....


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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #773 on: June 14, 2022, 11:33:42 AM »
B-JS's design looks like it has some serious positive engagement.

Hard to tell what's going on with Kirk's, without a pic of the actual joining pieces.

As far as inserts in wood, I would not be too concerned. 200lb crazies scream down ice covered mountains at 80mph connected to slats of wood and epoxy with a few inserts and 6mm screws.

What are going to do with that big a$$ rasp?
« Last Edit: June 14, 2022, 11:39:38 AM by Buggs »
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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #774 on: June 14, 2022, 11:50:49 AM »
I've got machinery maintenance going today..... The motor on my blower for my dust collector took a dump on me. Of course it's mounted up on top of my spray booth ceiling and requires contortionist
capabilities to remove...... I didn't remember that blower being this heavy putting it up there either. :dunno:  I darn near dropped that heavy thing coming down a ladder with it. :scared: :scared: :scared:

Time to haul the motor to a shop for a band aid or two.... Pain in the arse i tell ya.   

well.... i didn't hit the post button and today is another day... after tearing this thing apart and hauling it to the shop it turned out to be terminal injuries resulting is a quick funeral. It served me well for quite a few years. 

So he fixed me up with a new motor and i just about had a heart attack at $385 replacement cost. I did upgrade to a different design that was more enclosed than my open ended version. Trying to keep sawdust out of a blower pushing a dust collector is pretty tough to do. But this style will help with that.

Here is the new motor .

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But of course the motor was wired wrong and the direction needed to be reversed. So i'm in the middle of trying to get this done correctly. My first attempt ended up with a small fireworks display and kicked the reset button. I think i got something wrong here.... So i'm waiting for a call
back from the motor tech to see if i can straighten it out and avoid tearing it apart again and hauling it 30 miles into town.    :banghead: :banghead:     Kirk

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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #775 on: June 14, 2022, 12:06:00 PM »
Ouch! Almost $400. for a 1hp TEFC. Guess you could not afford the time to shop around :o
That looks like pretty standard blower. You would get better performance with a radial fin impeller design
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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #776 on: June 14, 2022, 01:03:58 PM »
I've used this Electric motor shop for many years maintaining compressor motors mostly, but for other things too.  Sometimes you get what you pay for shopping. These guys stand behind their products and have been very good to me over the years. I like that....

This blower does an excellent job. I built a pretty good sized cyclone that dumps into a large trash can i can empty, and i ran a 6" trunk line overhead with 4" drop lines to my sanders and other machines. Total cost of my dust collector system without the new blower was $35.00  I just used a 10" furnace fan for many years that i pulled out of an old furnace.  The bigger 4" drop lines to the sanders suck up a lot more of the real fine airborne particles, but would probably suck up a cat that got too close too. :biglaugh:

I'm real happy with the performance, except to my table saw. It's at the end of my line and doesn't suck up a lot of the heavier saw dust well. It does ok with the airborne fine dust, and that's the stuff that kills ya. ..... But realistically.... I don't run that table saw for hours on end like i do my sanders. So the blower is rarely used on the table saw drop anyway.    Kirk
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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #777 on: June 14, 2022, 04:55:20 PM »
Remember the First weed eaters had a elec. motor on them but the cost of a motor on a weed eater became to high$.
So now all you can get is a gas powered or Battery powered.
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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #778 on: June 14, 2022, 10:25:43 PM »
With these new fangled lithium batteries, some of these battery operated lawn tools they have now are down right impressive. I still run gas powered stuff myself, but have seen these battery powered ones in action, and i'm surprised how long they run between charges....

I got my blower winched back up on top of the spray booth and all hooked up. I'm good to go now on that front.

While I was still in maintenance mode, the sun came out and allowed me to change out the spindle on my mower deck that blew up last week. That didn't take long at all, and went smoother than i thought it would. The only hitch i had was the new spindle i purchased wasn't tapped for the bolts .... Smooth bored. :dunno:   But it was a 5/16 -18 thread just like our bow bolts, and i had a tap on hand all ready set up. It took about 10 minutes to tap those 4 holes in the aluminum flanges and she went right together.... Took it out and mowed a half acre with it afterwards too.

I might even get back to my bow projects tomorrow. :biglaugh:    Kirk
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Re: 2022 what did you do today?
« Reply #779 on: June 15, 2022, 07:55:44 AM »
At North Myrtle Beach with the grandkids today. We brought out bows as there is a local club that does guest passes.

While having my morning coffee,  I Google for wood working supply stores near me.
Literally 1 mile from the campground is a hardwood and slab place that claims to have exotic lumber as well. Going to go wood shopping today!

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