Author Topic: Riser Breaks...  (Read 2126 times)

Shredd

  • Guest
Riser Breaks...
« on: March 04, 2022, 12:01:34 PM »
  Any opinions on this.??  Curious as to what all your thoughts are...

Shredd

  • Guest
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2022, 12:02:28 PM »
  And now this...

Shredd

  • Guest
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2022, 12:03:05 PM »
  I got the pics from Face Book...  50# Bow...

Offline Mad Max

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 6565
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2022, 12:31:59 PM »
I don't think that is a very good design, the strips need to run the whole length
I would rather fail at something above my means, than to succeed at something  beneath my means  
}}}}===============>>

Online kennym

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 17339
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2022, 12:54:56 PM »
Both broke on a glue line, after the break starts, it can do some strange stuff.  :dunno:
Stay sharp, Kenny.

   https://www.kennysarchery.com/

Offline Appalachian Hillbilly

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 661
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2022, 01:12:48 PM »
Glue line breaks on edge grain of oily wood?

The one on the left I can see. Nothing runs continously from end to end. All stress is on that glue line. The one on the right??? It looks like it should have held better.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2022, 01:20:06 PM by Appalachian Hillbilly »

Offline 4 point

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1238
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2022, 01:23:27 PM »
Do you know what was used for a accent strip? Looks like the glue didn’t adhere well to it.

Offline Noah70

  • Contributing Member
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • ****
  • Posts: 145
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2022, 02:10:10 PM »
Looks like a glue line failure along the accent, but also poor design. The thumb and finger indentations at the top of the grip are aligned rather than slightly offset, the grip is cut deeply and very close to the accent. This results in the least amount of material, thereby the weakest point on the riser right at the centerline, top of the grip and up through the window. 
Any man who lives within his means clearly lacks imagination

Offline buddyb

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 205
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2022, 04:44:24 PM »
It looks to me like the sight window is too narrow toward the top of the riser. If you compare that to the smallest part of the grip you can see what I mean, especially on the black one.
BuddyB

Online kennym

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 17339
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2022, 05:18:18 PM »
One other thought, I wonder if those are glass accents?  Epoxy doesn't seem to adhere as tightly to glass as wood.
Stay sharp, Kenny.

   https://www.kennysarchery.com/

Online OldRawhide42

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 240
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2022, 05:37:41 PM »
I would like to know where thay got the limb beds from

Offline Crittergetter

  • SPONSOR
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2634
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2022, 07:03:04 PM »
I agree with Kenny. Glass to wood issue is usually related to moisture. Possibly shrinkage after glue up?
An elitist mentality creates discord, even among the elite!
"I went jackalope hunting but all I saw was does!"
Luck is when preparedness meets opportunity, I just need more opportunities!

Shredd

  • Guest
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2022, 09:14:56 AM »
  All good points and agree with most of them...

   I personally cringe when I see glue joints like this (ending on the back of the riser) especially when they don't have a fiberglass overlay which would probably help immensely and may help cure this issue...

  With this type of design you are totally relying on the adhesion of the glue to hold that riser together...  I prefer to orient wood grains a glue joints to work with the stresses to make a strong solid riser...  Aesthetics are never a priorty with me... A bow is a tool... I would rather have a plain jane, solid riser built out of one piece of wood vs something pretty with questionable accents in it...  When you are focused on your target the looks of your bow matter very little... The beauty lies in how it shoots and hitting your intended target...
« Last Edit: March 05, 2022, 09:29:54 AM by Shredd »

Online Crooked Stic

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 6075
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2022, 09:29:54 AM »
A couple of layers of glass on the front may have prevented this. Still a bad design.
High on Archery.

Online Honest Jon

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 78
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2022, 10:06:21 AM »
Stunning aesthetically but perhaps lacking in architectural soundness.  In archery, function MUST follow form!
I will study and prepare myself and someday my chance will come-A Lincoln

Online onetone

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 431
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2022, 02:54:03 PM »
Not to quibble but I think it is the other way around. Function trumps form in bow building, otherwise we all would be sculptors rather than bowyers … jmo

Offline BO-R

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 140
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2022, 07:55:14 AM »
one common denominator looks like the same bowyer built them.

Online Longcruise

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1335
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2022, 11:34:37 AM »
Not to quibble but I think it is the other way around. Function trumps form in bow building, otherwise we all would be sculptors rather than bowyers … jmo

I think he meant that and just mixed up the wording.

And, it's no doubt true.   We've all seen bows designed and built only with an aesthetic in mind.
"Every man is the creature of the age in which he lives;  very few are able to raise themselves above the ideas of the time"     Voltaire

Online onetone

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 431
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2022, 12:26:26 PM »
Ah, you’re probably right LC and yeah the balance between utility and aesthetic involves much personal design choice. For sure the eye candy can be taken to far but on the other hand if you make a tool why not make it purdy, eh?

Online Longcruise

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1335
Re: Riser Breaks...
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2022, 03:51:39 PM »
Agree.
"Every man is the creature of the age in which he lives;  very few are able to raise themselves above the ideas of the time"     Voltaire

Users currently browsing this topic:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
 

Contact Us | Trad Gang.com © | User Agreement

Copyright 2003 thru 2024 ~ Trad Gang.com ©