Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???

[Sologuy]

Id like to hear opinions on this from some who USE it

Thnks

[Flem]

They don't sell it any more. Moot point, unless you have back stock on hand to use up.
Vinyl sealer is good stuff and available everywhere.

[Crooked Stic]

If you refer to the vinyl stuff it works well if you apply with a foam brush.
But a lot of sanding afterwards.

[Flem]

Stic, lot less sanding if you spray it, rather than brush it.

[Crooked Stic]

Never tried spray but think it may dry in the air before it gets there. 

[Sologuy]

They don't sell it any more. Moot point, unless you have back stock on hand to use up.
Vinyl sealer is good stuff and available everywhere.

Vinyl sealer ??

[Flem]

Like this;

It's real common. I think every paint store, like SW, BM, etc. will sell their own version.
It's nitro-lacquer based, so it dries fast and sands easy. As long as you don't brush it on.

Forgot to mention that some vinyl sealers can be used either stock or catalyzed, if you really want bomber base coats.

[bjansen]

I love the high solids vinyl sealer from TB.  I used it for years and it really works well to fill grain.  I have never tried the ML Cambells, but looks promising.  I have tried some from Sherwin Williams that I did not like that much. 

[Flem]

Actually, this is the stuff I have been using;

I've not tried the quick dry. I prefer the water white with a lacquer base sealer, because they have a tendency to yellow over time. That and the W.W., can be catalyzed. Vinyl sealer is pretty tough stuff to begin with, but catalyzed, it's armor.

[Crooked Stic]

How much for a gallon. Does it use the same Cat as regular varnish?

[Flem]

I don't remember what it cost, but I do remember thinking it was reasonable without shipping costs. Unfortunately the local mom and pop home center that carried Campbell's sold. Might be the last gallon for me!
It uses the same catalyst as Krystal and a few other products

[Crooked Stic]

I got a home center about 60 miles that will order the ML Campbell stuff. The varnish was $64 a gallon. Guess I give them a call.

[Flem]

Considering the cost of shipping hazmat items, plus the cost of fuel, driving an hour is probably economical.
Especially if you consolidate your shopping trips. Last time I checked, shipping a gallon of finish added close to 50% to total cost!

[Crooked Stic]

Yeah be cheaper to drive.

[Crooked Stic]

Getting a gallon of the ML Campbell tomorrow.

[Crooked Stic]

Well just sprayed the first Cambell vinyl sealer. Have to say sealer is about all it may do. It is water thin no buildup at all by spraying. 

[Flem]

It's not epoxy. Will take multiple coats if you need some heavy build.

[Crooked Stic]

Not real impressed so far. But will try several coats and see what happens.

[Sologuy]

So..... I thinned up some Thunderbird, wiped it on and started sanding with 220.... let it fill pores.....  worked pretty good

[Crooked Stic]

You can spray several coats of epoxy gloss and level most woods if you can afford it.
Thinking of getting some of the seal cote shellac to try also for buildup.