Question for 3-under shooters...??

[woodchucker]

Of all you folks who shoot 3-under, is your bow tillered for 3-under??

Is it a "custom" or a production model??

[Orion]

I have old factory bows and customs.  As far as I know, none are tillered for 3-under.  I switched to 3-under a few years ago. In anything but an ILF bow, tillering for 3-under is pretty much a marketing ploy.  If bowyers actually do so, (i.e, build the lower limb a little stiffer.) the secondary market for the bow is theoretically cut in half because it would supposedly be less optimal for shooting split.  A simple nock height adjustment is all that's necessary to balance the limbs for shooting 3 under. 

[Bowwild]

All mine are customs except one. The customs are 3-finger under tillered. The factory one is ILF so I "tiller" it when setting up for 3-fingers under.

Whoops, I have one Thunderbird that I refinished that is not tillered 3-fingers under but I shoot it that way.

[woodchucker]

I used to shoot all of my old Bear recurves 3-under, but it was always much noisier than split finger.
I ran my nock point at 5/8" and brace height at 8 1/2" and got great arrow flight....
I just couldn't really quiet it down!! Minimize it, but I still got a loud THUMP!!

When I got my Bear T/D a few years ago and with the D97 string, it was REALLY loud!!!
I switched back to split finger and she's quiet as a church mouse.

Any Ideas??? 

[LookMomNoSights]

I’m listening here..... this is interesting...... 
think I’m a split finger shooter til the end,  though I did recently move to a tab after shooting a glove since day 1.  Really liking the tab shooting split. Tried 3 under several times over the years.   Eh 

[Possum Head]

No sir! It’s a Bear SK

[woodchucker]

My Kodiak T/D is an A-handle, #1 limbs (56" bow)

Could it be a length issue??? That longer bows are less finicky?? 

[Ulysseys]

Custom - tillered for split, I never really noticed a difference in shooting or sound compared to bows I’ve had in the past that were supposedly 3 under.

[GCook]

Try two under with your index extended straight out along the arrow.  That may help.

[woodchucker]

Maybe, go higher with my nock point...?? I thought 5/8" was high, but maybe 3/4"?

[Basic Instinct]

not sure if your fingers can handle it but I dropped my third finger and shoot 2 under really cleaned up my release and feels a lot better to me than shooting 3 fingers under just cut my tab down to fit my two fingers works like a charm seems to make the tuning a little bit easier to for me anyway. and bow is quiet

[Possum Head]

3/4” ain’t uncommon

[woodchucker]

I've got a couple old T/D strings around.
I might set up a bare string and play around with a higher nock point.
See if I can get it quieted down? 

I have always shot with a glove. Little Bear bought me a new one or Father's Day a few years ago.
I have always shot split finger up untill about 2003 when my Little Bear was starting to shoot.
He had a glass kids bow and cut down arrows in a tube quiver, that I put a strap on to convert to a back quiver.
He was 3, lol... He used to get frustrated, when he was pinching the nock and his arrows came off the shelf.
One day, he put all 3 under all on his own, and he's been shooting like that ever since!!

I asked my friend Joe Skipp about it, and he told me to shoot "Apache Style" I had to lower my nock point.
WOW!!! Talk about CRAZY arrow flight!!!  I found TradGang and started picking folks brains....
I was told I had to RAISE my nock point, and most suggested about a 5/8" height.
I set my nock height at 5/8" and got great arrow flight, but the bow was NOISY!!  With brace height adjustment and silencers, I was able to muffle it quite a bit, but could never get a QUIET bow....
When I got my T/D back in 2015, I immediatly set it up for 3under, and WOW it was LOUD!!!!
So,.. I switched back to split finger, and been shooting that way ever since.

I'm Retired... I get paid to "play" and have lots of time to shoot!!
My Little Bear is buying a house over in the Catskill Mountains. It has a 7 acre yard!!!
I'm going to move over with him, and be his "caretaker" lmao!! 

In the words of our departed Brother Ron... "I'm gonna hunt till they throw dirt in my face"

[Orion]

3-under makes the bow noisier because it puts more unequal stress on the limbs than does split finger.  Really no way around it.  Can quiet it, but split finger will usually be quieter. 

[woodchucker]

Kinda what I figured, Jerry!!! Just been thinkin....

(a mind is a terrible thing)

[Steve D]

What Jerry said. I have a newer A mag riser and concur with what Woodchucker has found they shoot much louder three under than split.
That been my experience.

[Kirkll]

Try using an elevated rest shooting 3 under and raise the arrow nock. That will make a big difference on noise on some bows…..

personally I think tillering for 3 under is an old wives tale. If the limbs are balanced properly,  3 under shooting isn’t going to make any difference unless you are string walking….

Target shooters that set up a light weight bows for string walking typically use ILF bows to adjust for it. With that being said… I have tillered a bit positive for an archer that was using a fixed crawl for point on shooting style for hunting.   

Kirk

[mahantango]

Of the 25+ bows that I own not one is tillered for three under and I shoot them all that way. As said before, a small nock point adjustment is all it takes. As far as  noise,  a good clean release and holding VERY little pressure on the ring finger really helps.

[Friend]

Over 90% of mine are customs and they are tillered for 3 under.

[woodchucker]

Scott,

On your 3under tillered bows, how high is your nock point??