Simmons Broadheads true weight

[varmint101]

Ninja, I don’t weight mine but I did for you lol my tiger sharks are 169 and my buddys swamp sharks average 183

[GCook]

Not being able to accept an apology, explanation and understanding another's circumstances and slamming the door behind you isn't a lot better imo.

[Terry Green]

I have another minute I'm waiting to get my mother's prescriptions filled...

Again I apologize for getting a little bit too defensive and some replies that I was hearing from ninja.  And I will be taking care of that as well as cleaning up this thread as it got way out of hand for sure.

I have have a very frustrating 2 days with my mother and the issue she has and it's very frustrating at times. I went through all the same issues with my father and it's tough. Even though I know what to expect from my dad's situation it'situation it's still very frustrating to deal with it at times but that is no excuse for me even if I do suspect a troll type of a response.  I know better than that.

 I've been running this site for almost 20 years and you wouldn't believe some of the things that I'd put up with, heard and me attack over but that's not an excuse either..... More later...

[Stringwacker]

I have another minute I'm waiting to get my mother's prescriptions filled...

Again I apologize for getting a little bit too defensive and some replies that I was hearing from ninja.  And I will be taking care of that as well as cleaning up this thread as it got way out of hand for sure.

When someone offers a sincere apology you should accept it...if only for the reason that I'm fairly certain no one is perfect. I know I'm not. I'm pretty sure the only person ever on this earth who was perfect; had nail scarred hands.

If we could walk a mile in someone else's shoes; only then could we began to understand. As for my own self...I'm good. Thank you Terry.

[kennym]

It's hard to see someone's expression and hear the tone of their voice on a forum .  This is where a lot of disagreements come in.

[kbetts]

It's hard to see someone's expression and hear the tone of their voice on a forum .  This is where a lot of disagreements come in.

Although I agree this happens alot, I keep going back to read the first 9 posts, hoping that could be the case.  I keep coming to the same conclusionas that there are two very different tones to the conversation.

[fmscan]

Terry, I thought your posts were wrong, that being said I appreciate your apology and that shows class, we should all calm down and thank you for being strong enough to publicly apologize. I will pray your Mom is OK.

[Squirrel Hunter]

I’ve not used that particular head but have found other Simmons heads to be inconsistent in weight, varying up to 10 grains, which is surprising. I don’t consider the OP foolish at all and certainly not worthy of criticism. I like my arrows precisely matched also, although I know it doesn’t matter at hunting distances.

[Terry Green]

OK guys, I cleaned up the thread, it got a little more out of hand than I thought.  Some have also been here a long time and *come to the defense* of the site if they perceive a threat as we have had countless threats over the years. I cleaned those up as well.

My personal issue is growing up with red hair, and being picked on.  Some redheads become withdrawn and others start punching back.  I was the latter,  and I am way old enough to know better that to do that so quick when I'm frustrated instead of like I normally do in a rational sincere manner.  That makes me a bone head.  I need to work on that.

So, in lue of my bone headness, I have apologized and will do so again now.  I have reinstated NinjaVanish with a complementary annual Contributing Member subscription.  I will now send him an email. 

The next time I pull this, which I hope I don't as I'm going to strive not to, ya'll knock me upside the head real quick OK???? 

[LookMomNoSights]

That right there is solid.
Nobody's perfect......and we all have had or will have our moments.  What you do after I suppose is what counts the most. 
Hope the older I get the less "moments" I have,  but no guarantees though I'll try my best.  I do know that if I can admit when I screw up,  own it and do what it takes to right it,  I'll only be a better man for that ....... and anyone who takes that route gets my respect.
 

[Wudstix]

Nice
 

[NinjaVanish]

That right there is solid.
Nobody's perfect......and we all have had or will have our moments.  What you do after I suppose is what counts the most. 
Hope the older I get the less "moments" I have,  but no guarantees though I'll try my best.  I do know that if I can admit when I screw up,  own it and do what it takes to right it,  I'll only be a better man for that ....... and anyone who takes that route gets my respect.
 

Stand up move here, Terry. Thank you.

Glad to be back. Didn't mean to cause such a stir!
 

Y'all wanna talk about broadhead weights now? 


Just to kind of clean up a couple things:

 I am admittedly a tinkerer. In some people's eyes, that may be viewed as a waste of time. However, for me, it is my escape. When I'm at my workbench measuring and weighing, there is nothing else on my mind. And I absolutely cherish that time to myself away from a demanding career and the daily grind that is life. I like what I like, and I'm confident in my approach to traditional archery. It's what works for me. I also admire a guy that can not pay attention to all of the little details and still get it done. That's awesome.

I apologized to Terry, and I'll apologize to the board for being a little too much of a smartass in a couple of my responses. Could've chosen some more tactful language, certainly. Hopefully, we can all move forward and have some productive conversations! 

-Happy hunting! (however you choose to do so)

[Wudstix]

We all get our "Irish" up, from time to time.
 

[beemann]

Find a VPA that strikes your fancy and give em a try .  My experience has been that they have very tight tolerances on weights.... And they are as tough as anything I have ever used.....Good luck .We all look at things a little different , nothing wrong with that....

[NinjaVanish]

Find a VPA that strikes your fancy and give em a try .  My experience has been that they have very tight tolerances on weights.... And they are as tough as anything I have ever used.....Good luck .We all look at things a little different , nothing wrong with that....

Love VPAs. You can find a couple of my VPA kills in the "Broadheads and the holes they leave" thread. 

[Stringwacker]

In regard to weight tolerances....

This might have already been mentioned, but most of the heads that are sold to be hand sharpened over and over, come in 10 grains or so heavy. I called a VERY well known broadhead manufacturer and they explained that they sell them heavy because every time a person sharpens it it loses a few grains. In that manner, every time you sharpen it, you are getting closer to the target weight.... as opposed to getting further away from it. (The latter assuming it came in "on the nose" for the advertised weight) Of course, some manufacturers don't have the QC that others do, which is another matter entirely.

NV, we are probably a lot a like as I'm just a tinkerer and I love putting arrows together.  I'm likely more of an arrow guy than a bow guy. I approach arrow tuning like cutting a piece of meat. You can dissect with either a meat clever or a scalpel...both get the job done; but the latter makes a little better job of it.

Good to see you back. All is good in the Trad Gang kingdom. Now excuse me as I feeling the need to go sing a couple of verses of Kumbaya

[LookMomNoSights]

Find a VPA that strikes your fancy and give em a try .  My experience has been that they have very tight tolerances on weights.... And they are as tough as anything I have ever used.....Good luck .We all look at things a little different , nothing wrong with that....

Love VPAs. You can find a couple of my VPA kills in the "Broadheads and the holes they leave" thread. 

Plus 1 for VPA!  The 160 gr glue on has taken the front seat as my favorite these days.  As mentioned,  very tight tolerance to weight ......almost dead on!  I epoxy them to steel adapters so that changes things a bit,  but the heads are consistent!

[NinjaVanish]

In regard to weight tolerances....

This might have already been mentioned, but most of the heads that are sold to be hand sharpened over and over, come in 10 grains or so heavy. I called a VERY well known broadhead manufacturer and they explained that they sell them heavy because every time a person sharpens it it loses a few grains. In that manner, every time you sharpen it, you are getting closer to the target weight.... as opposed to getting further away from it. (The latter assuming it came in "on the nose" for the advertised weight) Of course, some manufacturers don't have the QC that others do, which is another matter entirely.

NV, we are probably a lot a like as I'm just a tinkerer and I love putting arrows together.  I'm likely more of an arrow guy than a bow guy. I approach arrow tuning like cutting a piece of meat. You can dissect with either a meat clever or a scalpel...both get the job done; but the latter makes a little better job of it.

Good to see you back. All is good in the Trad Gang kingdom. Now excuse me as I feeling the need to go sing a couple of verses of Kumbaya

Well that makes a lot of sense. Since starting this thread, I did get a message from someone that stated his Tigersharks usually come in light. I'm probably just going to make a phone call and have them send me whatever he has around 180. That would fall in line with the VPA's I have in the quiver as well. Worst case, I throw a brass washer on the lighter ones. I'll get it whipped one way or the other, probably with a scalpel :lol:.

[kbetts]

Don't let the fact escape you, that although we are some of the most primal of hunters/killers.....we also carry the biggest hearts.

[Tedd]

I have always wanted to use a tree shark to kill a deer. This makes me want to go glue it on. I think there is one in my shop somewhere. This year I am using 80-85 cedars and they are pretty much at their limit pushing a 135 gr Zwickey Delta. The 175 gr tree shark might be too much. I'll try it. I have one favorite ash shaft that spines about 90. Maybe I'll put it on that one.
Tedd