Taper change61 in. Recurve

[Kirkll]

I’m going to just leave this alone Shredd…. You and I have butted heads before in a different arena and I’m going to stand down.

After looking at your Reddbow website and looking closely at your work,  It’s quite obvious you do not have as much experience as I thought you did building bows. I sincerely apologize for assuming you were more advanced than simple long bow design. Once you get into recurve designs and various configurations of static tip vs working recurves, you are going to find it’s a whole different ball game.

To the rest of the bowyers here. I  apologize for getting my hackle up… it was poor form.      Kirk

[Kirkll]

On a different note….. Shredd… I have a shooting machine design that you may be interested in for your testing venture.

 I worked out the design with an engineer taking a hooter shooter and incorporating a tension meter , an integrated measuring device for exact draw length, and an interface software with excell to automatically upload the full DFC chart as the bow is being drawn, then uploads the speed from the chrono and inserts the bottom line.

It’s a pretty cool design…. Runs about 2K to build.     Kirk

[onetone]

I favor dialog and discussion. I think I have learned things from most of the people on this forum. 

[Mad Max]

After looking at your Reddbow website and looking closely at your work,  It’s quite obvious you do not have as much experience as I thought you did building bows. I sincerely apologize for assuming you were more advanced than simple long bow design.  Kirk

This was very uncalled for.
He spent alot of time working on limb design and did not care about making a fancy looking Riser and burned himself out on building bows last year.
You should keep SOME of your options to yourself. Just saying

[4 point]

It use to be a guy could ask a question on here and get a bunch of info. A lot of different options to try. Now everyone wants to argue. People are going to stop asking questions and that’s a shame, there’s a wealth of info here. I haven’t been on here much because I felt things were changing and getting toxic like most other sites. Mike I hope your getting your design perfected.

[Mad Max]

It use to be a guy could ask a question on here and get a bunch of info. A lot of different options to try. Now everyone wants to argue. People are going to stop asking questions and that’s a shame, there’s a wealth of info here. I haven’t been on here much because I felt things were changing and getting toxic like most other sites. Mike I hope your getting your design perfected.

I stay away from confrontation a lot but had to this time.
Sorry if I offended anyone else.

[4 point]

Max, definitely didn’t direct that at you. I have your same feelings. There’s no need for rudeness.

[Mad Max]

 

[onetone]

Ditto the above! 

[Kirkll]

After looking at your Reddbow website and looking closely at your work,  It’s quite obvious you do not have as much experience as I thought you did building bows. I sincerely apologize for assuming you were more advanced than simple long bow design.  Kirk

This was very uncalled for.
He spent alot of time working on limb design and did not care about making a fancy looking Riser and burned himself out on building bows last year.
You should keep SOME of your options to yourself. Just saying

I'm done here Max.... I sent you a PM.      I apologize to all for voicing my opinion.    Kirk

[Mad Max]

 
 
 

[Crooked Stic]

Kirk it never fails that you continue to do it.  too much pride get you nowhere.

[Roy from Pa]

Kirk, you need to knock off your ignorance.

It's an on going problem with you.

Your bad reputation from other website forums follows you everywhere.

[Kirkll]

I think that was a bit harsh with the name calling.......But....  i'll just quit posting in the bowyers gallery completely. if anyone wants to contact me, i'll check my pms.      Kirk

[Roy from Pa]

No need to quit posting in here, just be more respectful.

[Shredd]

That means everyone has a right to voice their opinion on here... If someone disagrees with you it should be discussed in a gentlemanly manner not resorting to bullying and berating the other person... If you are firm in your beliefs and you are correct you will come out on top and everyone will learn from the discussion and it will be a pleasant experience...  I have told tons of people that you were my mentor... I learned a lot from you and put up with your cocky BS and bullying over the years... I had to leave the other site because of your disrespect... All along I have been doing some rigorous experimenting and testing and my findings don't align up with some of yours... And because of this now the student has in some way has become the teacher... I think this is what bothers you and you can't stand being challenged or worst of all admit that you are wrong... Well suck it up my friend because if you state something that I feel is misinformation I feel it is my duty to challenge you to keep the info correct for the boys on the forum... You have a lot to offer and can express your thoughts way better than I can in words... I hope you simmer down and can start respecting other people's opinions...   **  I was gonna write this in a pm but I feel that this is maybe something that everyone should see...

[Mad Max]

I agree

Everyone’s findings on the way they build bows and how there bows work may or may not be the same as you do, but it works for them.
More than one way to skin a cat.

[onetone]

Well said Shredd. I too have learned from Kirk and appreciate how generous he is with what he has worked out in his years as a bowyer. Still, I can do without the demeaning and put-downs, as they sully his otherwise helpful disposition and detract from the good cheer of this forum. I hope he will get off that high horse and continue to post here.

[Roy from Pa]

Ok this thread is locked.

Now let's all just get along together as friends.