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Norwegian flight championship.
« on: September 08, 2022, 06:42:25 AM »
The Norwegian flight championship is coming up soon. There are several classes, but poundage is one class up til 35 pound, then 35- 50 pounds and then sky is the limit. A few guys manage to draw 120 -140 pounds. (Not me) I am making this bow for the 35-50 class. The bows can be laminated, but only natural materials. The idea with this one is to have a long bow 70 ntn with a long fairly stiff mid section and much bend in the outer sections without making it directly wip ended. It is laminated with American hard Maple back, European Walnut center and European Iron wood belly. It has a Jatoba powerlam. Will be drawn to 28 inches. Pictures at brace and about 20, coming along, even tiller now. Fingers crossed.

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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2022, 06:50:39 AM »
Nice Bue.

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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2022, 06:56:45 AM »
Looking good Bue
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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2022, 08:50:16 AM »
Coming along, Bue. Good luck with your attempt.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2022, 09:46:33 AM »
Very cool :thumbsup:

Why the stiff mid section?
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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2022, 12:12:28 PM »
I understand the stiff mid section, and think thats a good thing for a flight bow.  but .....i'm curious as to if you plan on laminating a grip section to the belly? and if so, why are you flexing the bow without the riser section laid up?  That will stiffen it up even more.    Kirk
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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2022, 02:46:33 PM »
Good Luck Buddy...

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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2022, 04:57:33 PM »
Kirk. It will not be laminated on a grip section. It has a 19 inches power lam between the backing and center lam and I do not want this section stiffer than is.
Buggs. I am not certain about most things and my English is not that good,but this is what I think. I could try to write  a lot, but to make it short. I feel that a longer bow is more comfortable to shoot. In order to make these long limbs efficient I think that moving the short outer working section further apart less mass have to be moved.I do not want the limbs to be whip ended.

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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2022, 05:24:59 PM »
Kirk. It will not be laminated on a grip section. It has a 19 inches power lam between the backing and center lam and I do not want this section stiffer than is.
Buggs. I am not certain about most things and my English is not that good,but this is what I think. I could try to write  a lot, but to make it short. I feel that a longer bow is more comfortable to shoot. In order to make these long limbs efficient I think that moving the short outer working section further apart less mass have to be moved.I do not want the limbs to be whip ended.


Sounds like a plan Bue   :thumbsup:
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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2022, 07:35:55 PM »
Makes sense :thumbsup:  I imagine that profile will be more challenging to tiller. Good luck with the bow and the competition!
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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2022, 10:32:50 PM »
Kirk. It will not be laminated on a grip section. It has a 19 inches power lam between the backing and center lam and I do not want this section stiffer than is.
Buggs. I am not certain about most things and my English is not that good,but this is what I think. I could try to write  a lot, but to make it short. I feel that a longer bow is more comfortable to shoot. In order to make these long limbs efficient I think that moving the short outer working section further apart less mass have to be moved.I do not want the limbs to be whip ended.


I think you are on the right track with your thinking here. Especially using light weight shafts...   Kirk
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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2022, 12:51:40 PM »
Great job Bue, Your thought behind each material and its placement is spot on!

Love to see the draw at 28"
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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2022, 05:14:06 PM »
Great job Bue, Your thought behind each material and its placement is spot on!

Love to see the draw at 28"

Yeah he always thinks it out very carefully  :bigsmyl:
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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2022, 05:31:37 AM »
So basically Bue, the longer stiffer riser section reacts the same as a 3 piece take down bow with a longer riser and shorter limbs which equals greater speed?

Looking forward to a full draw picture Bue.

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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2022, 08:59:16 AM »
Yes Roy. That is the idea though it will not be as stiff as a take down handle. The idea is also to have a fairly long bow act like a short bow, but more stable and forgiving than a very short bow. We will find out on Saturday if it works or not. In the past I have found that what you think is a great flight bow may not be so when you test it. Good arrows is just as important as the bow I think.

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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2022, 09:02:01 AM »
Hope it performs well for you, Bue..

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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2022, 10:14:22 AM »
Good luck, Bue. Don't forget to take pics.  :thumbsup:
 ...and, good arrows are important in any archery activities. Many folks think the bow is the "thing" but without the arrow a bow is just a stick and string.
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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2022, 01:42:07 PM »
Good luck, Bue. Don't forget to take pics.  :thumbsup:
 ...and, good arrows are important in any archery activities. Many folks think the bow is the "thing" but without the arrow a bow is just a stick and string.

Boy is that a mouthful you just said right there Pat.... In flight shooting the arrows are a HUGE part of it. I spent some time with Allan Case who participates in our national flight shooting competition every year with some records to show for it. The time he puts into building and balancing those ultra light complex carbon shafts used for high powered foot bows is incredible.

Another factor in flight shooting by hand is learning to draw and release in one smooth motion without pause.... the string never stops moving...... An experienced  flight shooter can get more FPS out of a bow than 90% of the hunting archers will. Watch some video of these guys sometime. Great sport!

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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2022, 07:03:46 AM »
Sorry guys, but I will not be able to show a full draw picture of this one. I had the tiller right and had drawn it on the tiller tree at least a hundred times on full draw and also shot it a few times. It broke on the tiller tree with a bang. The break is so that it is difficult to see how the break occured. I suspect the maple backing went first since there is a clean break there across. I have not broken a bow in years so I guess it was about time. A flight bow should be highly stressed, but perhaps not this much he he. The competition is on Saturday so plenty of time to make another

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Re: Norwegian flight championship.
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2022, 07:30:33 AM »
Ouch.

I've seen those loud explosions a time or 2.

Never fun.

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