Carbon Arrow Shafts to replace Carbon Express.

[Bucksnort101]

So I made the switch to Carbon Express Heritage shafts several years ago and am down to my last half dozen.  Figured I'd order some more only to find they are no longer made.   
Looking for suggestions on what to try next as a replacement shaft.  I seem Easton make a couple "Traditional" style arrows.   Main use is just target shooting and 3D shoots, but I still like to shoot a little heavier arrow.
Just wondering what's available out there currently.

[Steelhead]

Those were great arrows with thier toughness and heavier weight.I shot the 150s and 250s.Of course they discontinued a great traditional arrrow uugh!

I have not shot carbons much in recent years.So will be interested to see what folks think have higher grains per inch.

however I do think the Easton full metal jackets are heavier than many currantly available.

[Tom0728]

I really didn't think they very tough. I've had a lot better luck with gold tip traditionals

[ESP]

I like Easton carbon legacy shafts.  They come 34” long which helps when you are a knuckle dragger like me.  The only ones I have actually broken was do to mowing over them.   They are not cub cadet proof.

They are lighter grain per inch than cx

[Clj]

I have been shooting black eagle vintage arrows. I’ve been satisfied with them.

[Bowwild]

I only use Easton. I really like the new Traditional Shafts. They do more for the promotion and support of archery than any other arrow maker, by far.

[Lefty]

I also went to order some Heritage shafts, only to learn they are no longer made.  I ended up ordering some Black Eagle vintage arrows from Black Widow and have been very happy with them.  I check them on my spine tester and they were all within +/- 1#.  Been shooting them all year and they have held up great!

[HornHunter]

lefty
are the vintage a 6.5 mm shaft and what is the gpi?

I to am a heritage junkie, I have 15 250s left

[KAZ]

I shot Heritage 150 & 250s for years, great shaft shafts… Also Beman MFXs… Now Easton Axis FMJ which are great shafts. Pricier but super good shooters and plenty durable. Never had much durability with Gold Tip but the Blems are value based. Just applied some  Victory RIP TKOs for Africa and they were lighter to allow Higher FOC. Worked just fine. Easton Axis FMJ are great shooters and tune well, plus forgiving. Cost is relative to the end outcome / total cost of ownership…  To each their own… 

[BigJim]

I am currently expecting a shipment of Dark Timber shafts.. they are on the way and should arrive in October. While these are made by the same company that makes all of the CX shafts, they aren't quite as heavy. They should however be as durable.. at least it appears so in my testing. I am very happy with how they turned out and look.

The Dark timbers will be a more affordable option with a wider array of spines and yet a very quality shaft.
BigJim

[Tradcat]

Hey Jim, I’m currently shooting CX heritage 250’s. My current arrows are 31” BOP with 100 grain brass inserts and 200 gr VPA terminator 3 blade heads. These are set up a touch weak for my current setup. What would you recommend as an equal option in the dark timber shaft? Also, I have heard that they were smaller diameter than 5/16…. Will the same 100 gr brass inserts fit ? Thanks

[BigJim]

Tradcat, it is likely that the 400's will work but testing will be necessary. The 340s-600s will be 5/16" and will accept a  .244 insert.. same as the CX. The 700s and 800s are going to be slightly smaller... .234" inside.

Thanks, BigJim

[HornHunter]

Bigjim
are these the same as your original dark timbers?
those shot great

[BigJim]

Horn Hunter, the originals were made in China, these are made in Korea.. Other than that, they have my own custom wood grain pattern. I have been testing them for over a year and find them to be at least as good if not better. Their consistency is better (not that the originals were bad) and the durability has proven to be even better if that was possible.
As far as shooting goes, I have tested the 340's as that is what I shoot and they shoot the same. One of my employees has been testing the 600's and a friend the 400's. We have found all of them to shoot the same.

Thanks, Bigjim

[HornHunter]

Thanks!   
look forward to trying them

[Lefty]

lefty
are the vintage a 6.5 mm shaft and what is the gpi?

I to am a heritage junkie, I have 15 250s left

SPINE INNER DIAMETER OUTER DIAMETER GPI
350            .244"               .303"          9.8
400            .244"                 .301"          9.2
500            .244"               .297"          8.5
600            .244"               .293"          7.9

[MnFn]

I like the Easton axis traditional a lot.

[toddster]

I love Black Eagle vintage, Big Jim timbers and been playing with Sirius shafts (American made)

[frassettor]

So I made the switch to Carbon Express Heritage shafts several years ago and am down to my last half dozen.  Figured I'd order some more only to find they are no longer made.   
Looking for suggestions on what to try next as a replacement shaft.  I seem Easton make a couple "Traditional" style arrows.   Main use is just target shooting and 3D shoots, but I still like to shoot a little heavier arrow.
Just wondering what's available out there currently.

Do you shoot the 350’s?

[Steelhead]

Bottom line,I think what many (but not not all of course) traditional hunters want for hunting is a tough,heavier shaft that has uniform spine all around the shaft.

The original Heritage shafts were really good on those desirable attributes.They did get a bit lighter later when they were redesigned.Someone probably thought they were too heavy GPI.Not me.Very stable shooting and the bow shot quietly.I keep my shots shorter so dont worry much about arrow trajectory.I could see where someone might like a flatter shooting arrow though for longer shots

I liked the original shafts more for thier higher grains per inch.
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