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1970's metal riser takedown bows
« on: October 15, 2022, 04:31:41 PM »
I am looking to see if there is any guides or sites that focus on early 1970's metal riser recurve bows. Looking to find any info on the attached pics.  People collect most everything so why not metal riser bows?




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Re: 1970's metal riser takedown bows
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2022, 08:57:43 PM »
Emil Pikula target model.

Don’t know of any metal handle specific sites.
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Re: 1970's metal riser takedown bows
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2022, 08:01:07 AM »
I have been compiling a history of British designed/made metal riser bows & those made elsewhere but marketed over here, predominantly pre-ILF.
Where possible I do acquire examples - but that does tend to exclude a lot foreign made that were not marketed here as the cost of acquiring & having shipped over here esp. from US would be prohibitive.
Naturally to put them into perspective one does need to consider what was being made worldwide ;-)
Here's my current working list .... (I also have a separate "wood" riser list):
according to my research the first metal riser British made bows were:
'67 - Marsden Howitt's limb attachment improvement patent appl., granted '68;
      Although:
      wood riser I have has patent appl. no. suggesting '67
      metal riser I have has patent grant no., so prob. dates '68+
      also suggested by use of metric for spec. (after EU entry in '73?)
'70 - Quicks "Cheshire Aluminium Riser" (BA Sep '70, Quicks & Quicks Catalogue'70);
'70 - Kings of Kelso "Take-Apart" (BA Nov '70); Bow dated Mar '71;
'71 - Kings of Kelso "Aquarius"' (Severn Apr '71, Quicks '71);
'71 - Zopf "Alu Magic" (Border limbs); Limbs dated May '71 (made by Kings)
'72 - Starcraft "Tristar";
'72 - Hoyt Pro Medallist TD (Quicks);
'72 - Wing Slimline Competition 70", GlasLite Bushwhacker (Severn)
'73 - Zopf Alu Magic (Art and Archery);
'73 - Gemini "Constellation TD125";
'73 - County Archery "Impala"?
'73 - Severn/Goldseeker "Int. TDM1";
'73 - Border Bows "Concorde";
'74 - Devon Klondyke;
'74 - Laleham Aztec;
'74 - Howatt Eldorado (Severn);
'74 - Darton Thunderbird (Severn);
'74 - Yamaha YSL, YTS (Quicks);
'75 - Black Widow T1200 (Quicks);
'75 - Border Crusader;
'75 - Marksman TD75;
'75 - Severn Goldseeker TDM2, TAM2;
'75 - Gemini Aquila TD;
'75 - Yamaha YTD (Quicks);
'76 - Border Argosy;
'76 - Yamaha YTSL (Quicks);
'76 - Severn Goldseeker Tiger (....VTD1?)
'77 - Perris Whitehart;
'78 - Yamaha YTSL II (Quicks);
'78 - Severn Goldseeker VTD2 (not seen specific mention of VTD1 previously ....unless was Tiger?);
'78 - Bowtech Falcon (Quicks) ....development of earlier Vindicator?
'79 - Perris Whitehart Mk2;
'79 - Nishizawa TD-11 (Severn);
'79 - Bear Bearcat TD (Quicks) Target & Hunter;
'80 - Bear Formula Bronze, Formula Target, Bearcat Hunter (Quicks);
'80 - Hoyt Pro Medallist TD3  (Quicks);
'80 - Greenhorn Phoenix TD.380 (Targetcraft);
'81 - Marksman KG1;
'81 - Greenkat "Indian" TDs (Targetcraft, Aylesbury) magnesium & wood risers;
'81 - SamWha Champion,TD01 (Severn, Targetcraft, Aylesbury);


But as I say elsewhere, the Impala pictures show limbs from "Border" made in '73
- maybe County got a deal on old Kings stock as the "Aquarius" came to market in '71?

Worldwide picture is slightly different:
'61 - Chessman Archery Co., "Component" bow;
'68 - ARI Golden Eagle ( '69 -retailed in UK by Severn);
'68 - Groves GS300, '69 - GS300 II;
'69 - GlasLite Bushwhacker;
'70 - Spartan II;
'71 - Wing SlimLine Competition;
'72 - Bear Victor Magnum, Victor Kodiak;
'72 - Carroll Gentleman Jim;
'72 - Wing SlimLine Competition II Hunter;
'72 - Herter Model 62 Magnesium Hunter;
'72 - Hoyt Pro Medallist TD magnesium Hunter;
'72 - Groves Magnum II;
'72 - Wilson Black Widow aluminum T1200;
'72 - Magnaflite Maximum;
'73 - Yamaha YA62;
'73 - Wilson Black Widow 1225;
'74 - Howatt Eldorado;
'74 - Darton Thunderbird;
'74 - Browning Folding Target/Hunter;
'75 - Yamaha YTD (Quicks);

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Re: 1970's metal riser takedown bows
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2022, 08:15:49 AM »
I am looking to see if there is any guides or sites that focus on early 1970's metal riser recurve bows. Looking to find any info on the attached pics.  People collect most everything so why not metal riser bows?





Are parts of the limb mount system missing or been replaced?
The ones i've seen have a triangular shaped pieces as part of the mounting system:


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Re: 1970's metal riser takedown bows
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2022, 04:53:31 PM »
The limb mounting system seem to be complete. There is a stainless steel cover plate  with a 1/4 steal plate, the limb, and a thin wood shim all sandwitched together with one bolt.  My pics only show finger tight. the riser is 31 inches long. Have you seen this model?  I'll start looking up the ones on your list.  Thanks a lot!!




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Re: 1970's metal riser takedown bows
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2022, 10:00:51 PM »
Scuba, I’ve not actually seen yours but suggested that is what it looked like to me.

That said I have owned the bows in bows in hardbern’s pictures.

Also owned the predecessor one piece wood/fiberglass versions.
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Re: 1970's metal riser takedown bows
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2022, 08:02:40 AM »
that plate bolted over the limb butt was common on the early UK TA/TDs like:
Cheshire "Aluminium riser" (for DIY bowmakers), although this may have been the basis for the Kings of Kelso "Take-Apart";

Kings of Kelso "Take-Apart";

Zopf "Alu Magic"  Mk1(whilst Austrian, the limbs were typically from Kings of Kelso/Border bows);

Zopf "Alu Magic" Mk2


although all these were back mounted not belly like yours.
Later TA/TDs tended to have inserts/bushings in the limb butts.

Marsden Howitt who patented a limb attachment system '67, used a system very like that of the
'65 Wing "Presentation II" .... how he got a patent I don't know given the "prior article" of Wing,
although I gather Bob Lee was noted for his philanthropy & willingness to share what he was
doing. Here's a PII, Howitt wood-riser with '67 patent marked & Howitt metal riser of unsure date.





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Re: 1970's metal riser takedown bows
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2022, 08:15:43 AM »
Kings of Kelso "Aquarius" was another TA/TD that appeared to be based on the PII,
although I have never seen one in the "metal" (anecdotally suggested as "because they all broke"?),
but appears to have been based on an earlier design by George Birnie & produced under Royal Scots Bows
of the wood risered "Executive" ~'66/'67.
1st pic is from "Aquarius" advert, 2nd is contrast of "Executive", "PII" & Howitt.


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Re: 1970's metal riser takedown bows
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2022, 11:50:59 AM »
Thanks for the info!  I think I will restore this bow. Riser needs blasting and recoating, a leather grip, and new arrow rest. Limbs need cleaning and new wood mount shims, then top it off with a new string.  Well I have some work in front of me!
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