$200/dozen!

[swampbuck]

I think the barrel shaped alum shafts by easton X10's ???? are over 300 doz last I checked I'd hafta look

[Madpigslayer]

I bought a bunch. Same reason I shoot silverflames. They are good quality. I have broken several so far (sticking them into trees so hard I couldnt get them out) they have several cross wraps, so they break straight across intead of down the length...so I shouldnt be able to explode one on release and send lengths of carbon into my bow arm. THat is important when you are crappy of a shot as I am, or perhaps it's because I am willing to "try" shots that normal guys wouldnt dream of taking, just to see if I can make it. translation, I am hard on arrows. I will let you guys know if they stand up any better?

as for the cost, I seem to be able to justify things in differant ways than you guys...and what I mean by that is I dont have to justify what I spend my money on to anyone. LOL.

[George D. Stout]

That's why they call it expendable income 8^).  I'll stick with my cedars and lowly aluminum 8^).

[Earl E. Nov...mber]

I don't know when stick bows cost four figures and more, $200 for a dozen arrows isn't out of line...
Listen to me.. still shooting AO xx75's from 20 years ago, and $3.00 Bear heads...

[aromakr]

I think you guy's need to wake up. every commodity in this country is tied to the price of oil!! When oil prices go up so will the price of everything else. Think about it, when the manufacture ships to the wholesaler, then they ship to the retailer, then to the consumer YOU PAY ALL OF THOSE FREIGHT COST its add to the price of the product. How many shipping costs are involved from the products used in the manufacture until the consumer finally receives it, I would bet 8-10 times. plus many products are made in part or all from oil, a double whammy.
I just replaced a gallon of Epoxy that last time cost me $63.00 this time $92.00 that's about 48% increase I have to pass that on to my customers. Thats just one item I use.
Bob

[George D. Stout]

aromakr....I understand the workings of the economic process; I was in retail for 35 years and co-managed a 75 million dollar Supercenter in the later years of my career.

The prices we're currently discussing are mostly elevated because of the demand that's out there, and what the market seems to be able to bear. Some custom bows have went sky-high because people still equate dollars to quality. Sometimes that works...sometimes it doesn't.

The increasing cost of petroleum and its subsequent impact on those products are relatively new catalysts.  They will drive costs and retails higher, of course, but they are not what has created the prices that we have seen.

The good thing, of course, is there are plenty of choices for those of us teetering on the edge of poverty 8^).  One doesn't have to spend a lot of money for bows or arrows...it's still a choice.  I have a perfectly beautiful, wonderfully shooting recurve that I have about $350.00 invested in.  It's beautiful...shoots great, and is the pinnacle of design...new blended with old.

That being said, I also have an old longbow I made with my own three hands in 1989.  It's beautiful (in my eyes), shoots great, and was the pinnacle of design...circa 1950 8^).  With gas going up and common sense going the reverse direction, I'll probably just keep dealing in the used  and home made market.  In the end, the intended target doesn't know what price the bow from whence the arrows are emanating.

[NDTerminator]

George, been meaning to tell you that I love your signature.  I'm a McManus fan from way, way, back.

Back to the arrows, yesterday I picked up another dozen of the Cabelas Carbon Extreme 5570's.  I'll admit they are for my compounds,
but here's the weight data.  

Cut to 28" with 3-4" vanes, 7" wrap, standard insert, and 100 grain points, they come out to 410 grains. Add the weight for another 1.5" of shaft, 50 grain insert, and 125 grain rather than 100 grain point, and it's right at 498 grains.  IMO that's about perfect for a carbon arrow out of a 50#-55# recurve, and they fly great.

I like having one type of arrow on hand that can be used in several bows.  Think I'll toot up another dozen raw shafts (about $50) before the price goes up...

[woodchucker]

Wood is GOOD!!!!!  

[aromakr]

George:
I sum what a agree with you, however oil prices have been increasing since the early 70's, and have been a major player all those years. I too spent 35 years in sales.
Back to the price of bows, yes you can buy a reasonable bow, one with out all the frills,that will certainly do the job. Those with the frills are not just bows, they are works of art and I can't expect a bowyer that spends double or even triple the time creating a work of art to give his time away any more than I would expect the minimum wage to be a dollar.
It has been said that traditional archers are thrifty!! that just might be an understatement. Don't get me wrong I don't believe that just because its expensive its the best, not at all there are some very reasonable bows on the market that are just as efficient as the pricer ones. Only the purchaser can make that decision of which one will serve him/her the best.
Bob