Why no pope and young fletchings?

[Vroomvroom]

When I picture bows, or long bows and arrows.   The fletching that comes to mind, and the one I find most attractive is the pope and young feather profile.  I notice that the feather cutters, burners, profile jigs for trimming your own full length feathers are not offered with the Pope and young profiles.  Even when they do, when you make your selections before adding to cart, it’s just not there.   I tried searching in this forum a little and I see many say they’re noisy.  So I could see in whitetail hunting they may not be desirable do to string jumping.  But I actually like noise like the fluflus can make. And probably what pope and young fletching could as well.  To me it’s the most classic or iconic fletching.  I might purchase some if I can find them. Just wondering why their at least not a little more popular is all.

[Terry Green]

I have a set of arrows I shoot in front of kids.... the most noise I could come up with.

A banana Pope and Young kinda sorta.  I'll post a pic in a bit.

[Terry Green]

These make a cool zzzzziiipppp noise similar to the shots in HH movies...

Just buy some high back bananas and snip.

[Vroomvroom]

Nice. Yes, maybe I will.   But for looks. I always loved pope and young fletching. Just suprised it’s not more popular…

[Tater]

    The original "Little Choppers" feather choppers were offered in Pope and Young , maybe they didn't sell very well? I still have one haven't used it in years, big feather and kinda noisy.

[Terry Green]

Just buy sheilds and snip.

[GCook]

For me they are too big and too noisy. Unnecessary amount of drag created if you're set up is well tuned.
That said I brought that up to Buff once regarding his use of banana fletch.  His response was he never knew of an animal he missed because of his fletching.
So I'm probably over thinking it.

[Terry Green]

Drag?  What kind of Drag are you talking about?

And, I'm not sure what you mean by too big?

[BAK]

Why are they noisy, because their shape creates turbulence, and turbulence creates drag, or vs-versa.  Nothing wrong with that shape at all if you want that.

[Vroomvroom]

I wouldn’t mind a little noise.  Here there are no high sprung deer. Moose will run off quick, but not make that initial jump like a deer.    Other than that it would be small game.    The only thing I might not like is if they really make them drop a lot.

[Terry Green]

The only thing I might not like is if they really make them drop a lot.

No, they won't.  That's not even an issue and not sure why you think they would. 

[Vroomvroom]

I wouldn’t have assumed they would have.  Just serching those fletchings up, seems most people complain of their noise or drag.  I wouldn’t have thought they’d make them drop within any range I shoot.  I just like the look of them and was curious why most jigs got every other fletch pattern, but no options to buy that one. On 3 rivers, the feather burner don’t have the pattern, nor the the clamp you cut them with.  At least not when choosing the fletching options before purchasing.

[McDave]

One of the advantages of having a feather burner is being able to be creative.  I've never done feather burning myself, but one of my friends does, and his arrows have feathers with a shape he designed himself.  Ever considered doing that?

[Gun]

I think they're not popular for the reasons you've already stated. Suppliers try to sell stuff that makes money by selling popular items. You could try a feather burner wire modification I guess. I have modified my 5" parabolic chopper to 3" and now get three feather per full length instead of maybe two.

I have made fluflus by just cutting full length in half as pictured. I always figured I'd lose them anyway, why spend a lot making an arrow.

Terry, these little vented plastic balls make a whistling noise when they fly thru the air. I think I got them at a longbow safari?

[Terry Green]

Vroom, a 5 inch shield and a 5 inch P&Y have no difference in 'drag'.  If there is any difference, you won't be able to shoot it.  If you take a 5.5 inch sheild and cut it at the last highest point before it goes back down, you will likely have a 1/3rd to 1/2 inch shorter feather.  That will certainly not be any type of 'drag' problem either.

If you find any real data on drag, let me know as I like to know if I'm wrong. Thanks.

[Vroomvroom]

I didn’t know how those feather burners work. Yes, if I could create the wire shape myself that would be fine.   Or like Terry mentioned, cut the last 1/4” off a shield cut.   I’m not concerned with a little louder arrow.  If it’s not small game or a moose that won’t jump the string at 25-30 yards, it would be a stump.    I ghink their a classic look.

[Terry Green]

Gun, I have some 'whistle points' I got years ago, don't know if they  make them anymore or not.  Along with the fletch I posted above, the kids loved hearing them.

[mnbwhtr]

From 1980-92 I shot 70" Asl's with wood arrows and Pope & Young fletch and killed a lot of animals. The whistle was the last thing they heard.

[GCook]

Drag?  What kind of Drag are you talking about?

And, I'm not sure what you mean by too big?

For example a four inch vs a two inch shield cut hits about three inches lower at 25 yards for me.  Higher and longer create more drag than lower profile, shorter in length fletch.  However even though the 2" provide adequate stability for me I prefer the looks of four inch.  And really at the range I hit there is not enough difference to matter to me.

[Terry Green]

Cook, he's talking about cut style not feather length.

3 inches????  I have not found that.