Roger, do you know what year that pic of Fred is from? Reason I ask is I built him a dozen arrows that mirror those, as we hunted together in Quebec and stayed in our hotel room on the way back. His was double booked and he had no where to stay. We let him stay in our room, as I slept on the floor. He insisted on paying for the room and dinner, I had to do something. Made the arrows to his specs and sent them to him. He wrote my a really nice letter back thanking me, and we talked about the trip often. One of my fondest memories.