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canadian
Trad Bowhunter
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carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 12, 2008, 10:20:00 PM »
I have some carbon express heritage shafts on order. I have never had carbons before, so I was wondering if there was anything I should know or do before installing the inserts. What heat reversing glue is best, and do I have to rough up the inside of the shaft first?
Thanks, Jonathan
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murph
Cherokee Scout
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 12, 2008, 10:27:00 PM »
Be sure to clean the inside of the shaft with a Q-tip and alcohol to remove all carbon dust.
Epoxy works well. Most use Grip Tip or Goat Tuff type super glue gels. Be very careful about applying heat. Carbon shafts can melt!
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John
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 12, 2008, 11:04:00 PM »
I like to use Bohning Powerbond for my carbons,never lost an insert.But I think the key to any carbon is to etch the inside and scratch the insert also and clean with an alcohol before you do any glueing.
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Bear
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 12, 2008, 11:08:00 PM »
Hot melt can actually work fine if you want to be able to remove them easily. Just use the white hot melt though. The amber stuff is too brittle for the flexability of a carbon shaft. That said, go with two part epoxy! Wont give at all and inserts can be removed by applying slow, indirect heat.
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 12:13:00 AM »
I use Devcon 2 part epoxy, Powerbond also works well. Use denatured alcohol for cleaning the shaft after roughing the inside of the shaft.
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Mark 507
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 12:17:00 AM »
I use a .270 cal bore brush and twist it several times to score the inside of the shaft to give the glue something to bond to. I then clean with a Q tip and alcohol and glue with gorilla glue. Inserts will not come out!
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Jason R. Wesbrock
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 12:19:00 AM »
I tried a bunch f different glues several years ago when I switched back to carbon shafts, but eventually settled on regular old Ferr-L-Tite. No problems at all.
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JC
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 07:22:00 AM »
I prep as others have mentioned but use JB Weld exclusively now. Have had failures with everything else but this.
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NDTerminator
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 11:11:00 AM »
I hate messing around with epoxies & glues, so I use Hot Melt and have no problems at all. It's just much easier and with Hot Melt you can turn the insert to tune broadheads.
Of course Hot Melt isn't as strong as expoxy or JB Weld, but when I punch an arrow into a post or tree I only lose the insert, not break the shaft off at the insert trying to work it out.
After cutting the shaft on an arrow saw, I square it with a G5 tool, then prep the inside of the shaft by running a stainless steel 22 caliber bore brush in & out a few times so the Hot Melt can adhere better...
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 12:39:00 PM »
Like JC said...JB Weld. If it will hold a Chevy PU waterpump together, it will hold an insert in a carbon shaft.
Besidesthe water pump, I use JB Weld in my Heritage shafts.
Danny
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BigRonHuntAlot
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 12:43:00 PM »
Another Powerbond Fan !!
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 02:14:00 PM »
I'm new to carbons. I've tried something new, dunno if ya have it down south, called "Gorilla Glue". I rough up the inside of the shaft some, & the insert, then let it sit in a inch of water while I apply the glue to the insert, shake excess water from the shaft & combine.
Now I have no idea if it's possible to remove 'em, kinda doubt it, seems to hold like nuttin' else!
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Traxx
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 07:46:00 PM »
Ill second what JC said,bout the JB weld
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 08:54:00 PM »
The best I have used in the Easton stuff that comes with axis shafts but I never had the need to remove inserts once put in carbons.
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 09:06:00 PM »
Pine Ridge Archery Products 'Instant Arrow Glue'
best I've ever used...holds tight but can be removed with heat easily
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Bear
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 09:21:00 PM »
The .270 thing is good. Forgot about that.
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donw
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 09:41:00 PM »
another vote for jb weld...
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 10:14:00 PM »
Black max super glue never lost a insert in years
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 13, 2008, 11:42:00 PM »
JB Weld, but sparingly.
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TaterHill Archer
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Re: carbon arrow insert glue??
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May 14, 2008, 02:22:00 AM »
JB Weld or golfworks.com golf club epoxy.
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