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Author Topic: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through  (Read 2946 times)

Offline Terry Green

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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2023, 02:13:56 PM »
For me, focus is not a verb, aka action,...  it's a state of mind.

If you are properly aligned with the 'Magic T' as I call it, the follow through will take care of itself, as will the release, windage, and bow arm.
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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2023, 05:40:47 PM »
I was at a 3D shoot recently and a group of us were talking about this very thing. One of the guys is a martial arts instructor and brought up the concept of mushin, the Japanese word for "no mind". And that's when it hit me, my focus is better and therefore my shots are better when I have an uncluttered mind and all I'm doing is focusing on the spot, not thinking at all. When I think at all about my shot process it affects my focus and I'm not as accurate.
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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2023, 10:16:46 PM »
That should be REAL easy for me.  What were we talking about?
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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2023, 10:24:13 PM »
For me, focus is not a verb, aka action,...  it's a state of mind.

If you are properly aligned with the 'Magic T' as I call it, the follow through will take care of itself, as will the release, windage, and bow arm.

Terry, what is the Magic T?
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Offline Terry Green

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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2023, 08:16:04 AM »
Maclean,

Its all right here....

Take in mind there are some primitive images on this thread, but that was what we had back in 2007.... but it still gets the points across....

The Form Clock thread has over 58,000 views.

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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2023, 08:32:08 AM »
I will definitely check it out. Thanks Terry!
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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2023, 09:24:32 AM »
Hey Terry, thanks for putting the Form Clock banner up.

And for anyone who hasn't already checked it out, do so. If you're interested improving your form, this stuff is a goldmine.
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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2023, 10:28:03 AM »
Yes, Mcclean.  I'm going to quote you on the other thread about the guy looking for a mentor/coach.

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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2023, 11:03:25 AM »
“Burn a hole in it” is what Hill said. I personally like the phrase “ aim small, hit small “. To make my point I bought those little red dots and cut them to fit the eyeball of the prairie chicken target. Trying to help (not teach) seniors that are new to archery keep their arrows in the target butt. Unfortunately a few can’t see the dot at 20 yards. “Imagine “ that dot in the kill, it helps me. But as I tire my focus will shift, worst since I hit the 70’s in age.

Time to use a bigger dot brother… :biglaugh:  I’m right behind you on age and use the 1” dots….
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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2023, 06:32:22 PM »
Ah, we are going beyond the spot soon.... something I've been meaning to film and post for years.  A little something I came up with years ago that took me to a WHOLE DIFFERENT level.
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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2023, 10:10:02 AM »
I just watched a so called expert on instagram ,what a joke.  He thinks he is a remarkable But his form sucks.  Fly away release camouflage by the back of the neck touched which is a joke. There are too many parrots..

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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2023, 10:29:09 AM »
Are you talking about the guy that promotes the other specialty group? The guy that really doesn't have his form down yet promoting the hold grail?

If so, I saw that vid today.
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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2023, 10:57:52 AM »
I don't get on instagram much but it sounds like a video I saw this morning.
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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2023, 04:15:39 PM »
Yes, this is the guy who also is seeking fame and fortune thats never killed any thing.  He's just a name dropper..  I know exactly who you're talking about with the fake shoulder touch. Just another guy, miss guiding people for his own benefit.

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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2023, 04:56:49 PM »
If you consciously have to touch your shoulder you're not focusing on your shots. Plain and simple, it's another Band-Aid.

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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2023, 06:52:05 PM »
Sam,
I'm not always sure what happens after my fingers slip of the string, but mostly they keep coming back past my ear.  I think?!?!
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Offline Terry Green

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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2023, 08:02:27 PM »
Yes, you will see many people touching their shoulder even though they still have a fly away release, they just made it a 'fly around' release, and they still have a dropping and horizontal bow arm,  Just the fact that you touch your shoulder has zero bearing that you are properly aligned.

If your #1 power point is not inline with your #2 power point you have not obtained the 'Magic T'.  Therefore, you will never have yourself or your equipment at an apex level.

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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2023, 07:00:22 PM »
Wow, glad someone pointed this out. I see this fake stuff all the time. All while trying to sell you something.

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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2023, 11:29:52 PM »
My Dad always said I had an amazingly acute and intense understanding of the painfully obvious.
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Re: Focus, Focus, Focus, Follow Through
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2023, 04:42:07 PM »
I find that I'm good for 6-10 shots, one at a time, at the same target.  Then I seem to start thinking too much about the shot and not just "feeling it".  Quivering Intense focus on the spot until the arrow is in the target.  Not moving anything, except my drawing hand until the arrow hits.  Following through with my hand brushing my cheek.  That is what it takes to be consistent, for me.  IMVHO YMMV
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"If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space!!!" - Me

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60" Big River 67#@28"              
60" MOAB D/R LB 62#@27"
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62" Kota Badlands LB 72#@28"
62" Howatt TD 62#@28
58” Bear Grizzly 70#@28”
62" Big River D/R LB 60#@30"
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