Split shot judos

[Susquehannariverarcher]

Has anyone ever experimented with melting split shots in to glue on judos to get desired tip weight for a woodie? I think I'm gonna give it a try.

[JohnnyBa]

Has anyone ever experimented with melting split shots in to glue on judos to get desired tip weight for a woodie? I think I'm gonna give it a try.

How much weight are you needing or wanting to add?

[Susquehannariverarcher]

Not much only about 10 or 15 grains

[JohnnyBa]

I really don’t see that amount of weight affecting a wood arrow’s flight, but I do have very limited experience. Let us know how it goes. I love playing with arrows.

[Orion]

No need to melt it, just drop them in.  Probably better to use small shot, say 7 1/2 to 9s. That being said, I never worried about my judos/blunts and broadhead points needing to be the exact same weight. Though I try to match them closely for peace of mind, if they're within 25 grains, most folks, myself included, won't be able to tell/shoot the difference. 

[Wudstix]

One #6 shot weighs 2.2 grains on my scale FYI.
 

[Walt Francis]

Tried it with bird shot about 25 years ago,  there was not enough room to add the needed weight to match 190 Grizzly’s.  I even shortened the the tips of my arrows.

[mjh]

How about brass inserts to get your front end weight up?

[Susquehannariverarcher]

I'm not familiar with brass for woodies.

[JohnnyBa]

Maybe a lighter judo with a woody weight adapter. 100g judo with a 40 g WW adapter should get ya what you want. I still don’t think 5-10 grains is anything anyone shooting trad could tell the difference in, maybe 25-50. When I first tried wood arrows, I purchase a set pre-built, spines 45-50, cut them down to my draw length-27”- and they flew, 20 yards and in, no different with the stock 125 tips that came with and with 145’s, 160’s and even 190’s even tho the latter did have an inch or so of drop further than 20, but still, those huge weight gaps did nothing that I could see to my arrow flight using ski mo filming of shots. Maybe more experienced hunters can tell you diff, that’s just my real world results out of a 50# bow pulling snot 42#. I fing aluminum arrows fly very similarly to wood. With carbons, 5-10 makes a bit more diff.

[Susquehannariverarcher]

Ah yes very interesting. I just like to tinker but that's good to know!

Maybe a lighter judo with a woody weight adapter. 100g judo with a 40 g WW adapter should get ya what you want. I still don’t think 5-10 grains is anything anyone shooting trad could tell the difference in, maybe 25-50. When I first tried wood arrows, I purchase a set pre-built, spines 45-50, cut them down to my draw length-27”- and they flew, 20 yards and in, no different with the stock 125 tips that came with and with 145’s, 160’s and even 190’s even tho the latter did have an inch or so of drop further than 20, but still, those huge weight gaps did nothing that I could see to my arrow flight using ski mo filming of shots. Maybe more experienced hunters can tell you diff, that’s just my real world results out of a 50# bow pulling snot 42#. I fing aluminum arrows fly very similarly to wood. With carbons, 5-10 makes a bit more diff.

[JohnnyBa]

I like tinkering too and have come to the conclusion that most times I just rediscover what someone else has already done.

[Susquehannariverarcher]

Yep me too! Or I discover that the way everyone does it is the way that's best.

[DarkTimber]

Tungsten putty works very well also and stays in place better for me.

[Pat B]

What about wrapping copper wire on and/or behind the judo head to increase tip weight. You won't have to worry about it affecting penetration with a judo point.

[Badlands]

I have but you don't have to melt them, you can just pound them down into the tip.  Or, just use the jig from 3 rivers and add some lead wire.

[Archie]

To get a judo Kondor to weigh a bit more, I took a rubber blunt, cut the fat, flat end off the front, turned it around backwards, and pushed it on the shift behind the judo.  Backwards, because if it's facing forwards, the longer metal arms on the Kondor are pushed against the blunt on impact, and they bend.  With the narrow end facing forward, they do not.

I've been doing this for many years, and it works great.  You can shave off more and more of the blunt to reduce it to the weight that you need.

[bosteldr]

Go to fishing tackle store.  Check the fly tying stuff, look for lead wire.  Wrap it on judo head.

[Squirrel Hunter]

I’ve done it with both Judo’s and Broadheads (Zwickau Deltas).  You can add about 35 grains. If you want more than that, I’d recommend a woody weight.

[trad_bowhunter1965]

I uses #8 shot to make my judo's 160 I do have to trim down the taper just a little.