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Offline texas terror

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arrow grouping
« on: June 08, 2008, 09:35:00 PM »
new arrows are grouping left need some input to help. thanks

Offline HATCHCHASER

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2008, 10:37:00 PM »
Sound stiff if you are a righty.
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Offline Jerry Jeffer

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2008, 12:21:00 AM »
Just grouping left, or nock left? If your group is left but arrows are straight in the target,  maybe put your nock point a tad higher. If your nocks are left, then hatchchaser's advice is likely. This is just from my experience. I'm no expert.
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Offline Shawn Rackley

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2008, 12:24:00 AM »
i am actually having the same problem.
i just bought some easton epic 600.
im gonna try raising my nock point tommorow.

Offline LKH

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2008, 02:24:00 AM »
Did you bare shaft before fletching?  I spent a lot of money on carbons.  Would get them the length I wanted and then fletch.  Took this slow learner a while to realize I had to bareshaft, especially w/my 27" draw.

Offline John3

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2008, 08:03:00 AM »
If the arrows are fletched and grouping left you are for sure too stiff...

Increase point weight or increase brace height.

Need more info, bow weight, draw length, ect..
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Offline texas terror

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2008, 06:59:00 PM »
the bow is a pse sequoia longbow at 50#. im shooting beman ics 500 @30 inches with a 100 grain tip. just to be clear i should increase my brace height from 6.5 to maybe 7? or decrease?

Offline Apex Predator

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 08:33:00 PM »
You are gonna need about 200-300 point weight to make those soften up some.  They are too stiff.  At least this is my take on it.
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Offline James Wrenn

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2008, 09:00:00 PM »
Well how much left and at what distance would tell more.Just try some heavier points on your arrows and see if they go back where they belong.They might be a little stiff but at that length it should not take much to bring them around for a 50lb bow.
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Offline Traditional-Archer

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 09:03:00 PM »
Check out O.L. sight and you can see you are weak spined, there is all kinds of good information for you on O.L sight .http://www.bowmaker.net/index2.htm
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Offline texas terror

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 09:20:00 PM »
i think that chart means that your nock is left

Offline Outwest

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2008, 09:44:00 PM »
Can increasing brace height really loosen up an arrow?

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2008, 09:47:00 PM »
Quote: If the arrow is too weak or stiff, the oscillations are unequal, the arrow will swing more to one side than the other, causing the arrow to plane off line in that direction, away from where it was pointed. This mis-matched situation may be hardly noticeable with field tips or target points, but broadheads will magnify the problem greatly! Let's take a look at the factors involved with properly tuning your equipment and adjustments to make that will get them flying correctly.
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Offline BLACK WOLF

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2008, 10:44:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Outwest:
Can increasing brace height really loosen up an arrow?

John
Higher brace height requires a stiffer arrow...so if your arrows are showing slightly stiff...one of the ways you can correct it is by increasing your bow's brace height.

You can fine tune your set-up with brace height but it won't make HUGE changes.

Ray       ;)

Offline BRITTMAN

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2008, 11:42:00 PM »
Forgive me if Im wrong but you want to decrease brace height for to stiff of an arrow to give it more energy/speed , and for a weak spine increase brace to decrease energy/speed . I could be wrong but thats what I have always thought and used while tuning .

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Offline Biggie Hoffman

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2008, 05:31:00 AM »
aim more to the right...........

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Offline BLACK WOLF

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Re: arrow grouping
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2008, 08:34:00 AM »
Brittman,

That's what I use to think...but it's actually the opposite.

Ray  ;)

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