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Author Topic: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo  (Read 264 times)

Offline razorsharptokill

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polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« on: June 12, 2008, 02:26:00 PM »
I didn't realize that bocote was that oily. I let my new riser dry for 2 days and it was still tacky.
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 02:42:00 PM »
Best to spray with Deft first , or even cover with cyanoacrylate , then use the poly over that

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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 02:55:00 PM »
Is that because it has oil in the wood....

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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2008, 03:13:00 PM »
It'll dry in few months  :)

The superglue trick was a godsend for me.  Just spread it over the bocota first.  Let it dry and then poly will do fine.
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 06:25:00 PM »
Superglue on the bocote bow I made....
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 07:16:00 PM »
superglue works good for me.it seals the wood in about min.

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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 08:01:00 PM »
Yeah, it will take months to dry without properly sealing first.  Like others, I have had good luck with cyanoacrylate(superglue)  then spar or poly over that.  Good luck, Matt
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 08:11:00 PM »
I let a bacote bow sit for six months and it still was not dry.After I stripped it down then I just sealed it with super glue,same goes for cocobola and gaboon ebony.I just spread the super glue with my finger,I use a latex glove.

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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2008, 01:07:00 AM »
Superglue, superglue/acetone or shellac. It's gotta be sealed before the finish is applied.
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2008, 11:29:00 AM »
Getting that sicky finish off to seal it is fun too.  I just learned the hard way on my first bowbuild (Dryad bowblank).  Superglue did the trick.
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2008, 05:11:00 PM »
I used a scraper to remove the first gummy coat,then used the cyon.....(can't spell it)
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Offline razorsharptokill

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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2008, 10:06:00 PM »
A cotton buffing wheel takes it off pretty good. How much superglue does it take to seal a riser?
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2008, 10:14:00 AM »
I had that problem once, bought some kind of "all natural" stripper from sherwin williams. It was in a white plastic container and the stripper was a greenish color. Wipe it on let it sit and it took the poly off. The stripper was almost a paste consistancy. It worked pretty well and wasnt that expensive. Maybe 10 or 12 dollars. Saved me a ton of scraping and then I sprayed a Sherwin williams 2 part conversion varnish on it. No problems since. With that SW 2 part I can spray any wood without sealing and it dries in 5 to 10 minutes. Steve

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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2008, 10:38:00 AM »
Shellac is what I would recommend.  Much easier to deal with than superglue, but takes a little longer to dry.
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2008, 02:08:00 PM »
It doesn't take too much super glue.  Just spread it around evenly and don't miss any spots.  Dries in no time.
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2008, 05:26:00 PM »
Ric Anderson,

The shellac (Zinsser Bullseye aerosol)I have says not to use under polyurethane finishes. Have you had any problem with poly over shellac, or do you use a different top coat?

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Offline razorsharptokill

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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2008, 10:23:00 PM »
Gotta spread it thin and fast I discovered or it will look like clear finger paint! UGH.
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2008, 12:30:00 AM »
gaboon ebony is the same way, makes gluing iffy too if not prepared properly
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Re: polyurethane won't dry on bocote and cocobolo
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2008, 10:20:00 PM »
Don't use spray on shellac use the paint on kind.  Polyurethane should stick to it, I know it sticks to shellac you make yourself.  I always use shellac as a sealer because all finishes will stick to it.  It can even  be used between lacquer and polyurethans.

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